Sojiro:

...I see.

Good.

I think this information needs to be made more clear in the game announce posts.
It really changes things IMO.

Yeah... that email should have been the first announce regarding curios. I would have reconsidered spending my credits on the packages I bought if I was going to need to purchase more packages later to get the "full effect".

I don't know what this lantern or asp are, but how upset I am that it hasn't been in the packages will be determined off of that. All of my choices for the curios I focused on were based on the names and whether the ambient seemed right, then when I was done I started just throwing the rest together, if they're something I'm going to want more than the ones that are very likely never going to be touched (hello spiderweb) other than for their enchantment capacity, annoyed seems like an understatement. Kinda feel that being that it's already been a week and purchases have gone down, so there should be a package offered for maybe a week or two that has an increased chance to drop asp or lantern pieces.

But I don't want a bridge. :(

Xenthos:

But I don't want a bridge. :(

So try to sell it to someone...

Honestly, I'll probably not go for the rest of the curios (possibly except for the fourth set, since they'll cost gold and not credits) for quite a while. I even feel a bit cheated, since I'm now over 100 credits in debt over this just because we didn't get all the information from the start. If we had, I certainly wouldn't have bought as much as I did.

First off, I wanted to thank those behind the scenes for all the work that has to go into making these curios and the different rounds of them to come out. I wanted to be sure to do that before I stated any gripes about the situation.

I wish we had gotten clearer information at first as well. While looking back at Estarra's announcement post, there is a mention of collections, but it doesn't really make clear that there would be 4 different types of curios released at different times throughout the month. I am certain a lot of folks spent saved credits not fully understanding this, such as myself, which can be a little bit frustrating. Additionally, I think a lot of folks made gut decisions on the magic item curios based upon the appearance of the first item. Perhaps with the roll out of the second item, we can at least get a name for each collection that fit across the 4 curios that will be released? (i.e. Bridge Curio Collection) I think that would certainly help people make sure they got the best collection for their RP and taste. Come to think of it, if the name of each collection gets released before all items are out, it would avoid a repeat of a missing curio in the set.

As for the Asp and Lantern, I guess these things just happen. Not sure the best way to make sure to get these curios out now that so many folks have bought curio packages and the like. Maybe just gift a box that only rewards asp and lantern parts to those who purchased the packages? It would get the pieces out there and offer a little goodwill to those who are frustrated about the communication gap.

Ssaliss:

Honestly, I'll probably not go for the rest of the curios (possibly except for the fourth set, since they'll cost gold and not credits) for quite a while. I even feel a bit cheated, since I'm now over 100 credits in debt over this just because we didn't get all the information from the start. If we had, I certainly wouldn't have bought as much as I did.

Yes, that debt is definitely not your fault. Your hand was forced. Quit bitching.

Let me clarify it for you. If I had known about the packages being spaced apart like they are, I wouldn't have needed that loan. I would've been able to use my existing credits to buy a bit of the first package, then later a bit of the second, and by the time I got to the third package, I might've been able to raise enough credits on my own to buy a bit of the third package. If not, I would've taken the loan anyway. Since we didn't get any information, I basically can't buy anything of the second and third packages until long after the craze is over.

Rakor:

Yes, that debt is definitely not your fault. Your hand was forced. Quit bitching.

Spending it all at once because it wasn't known there were more coming definitely isn't his fault.

Why so hostile?

Eesh! Sometimes I feel that I can't win for trying!

Anyway, the truth is we weren't positive if we were going to release more sets this month (though my aim was always to have collections) and we were debating how many sets should make up a collection. So we couldn't really have announced specifics at the start because we didn't have them. The popularity of the curio magic items was enough that I decided we should push it through this month, especially as I saw early on how much gold was being generated and thus wanted to make one set gold-only to provide a sink (as another thread is also suggesting).

So I thought the surprise of more sets of curios would be welcome rather than causing anyone angst! Apologies. I'm not sure how the lantern and asp fell through the cracks. Rather than cause more grief, we'll just hold them back this month and use them for some future release.

It'd be nice if the subsequent sets were cheaper on the credit-front, simply because a lot were already thrown into the initial wave / other purchases. Though I don't know how plausible that will be, you could adjust the coin ratio once you switch to the new packages and adjust prices from there.

Or if there was only one more credit-set instead of two more (so 3 curios per set, instead of 4).

Estarra:

Eesh! Sometimes I feel that I can't win for trying!

Anyway, the truth is we weren't positive if we were going to release more sets this month (though my aim was always to have collections) and we were debating how many sets should make up a collection. So we couldn't really have announced specifics at the start because we didn't have them. The popularity of the curio magic items was enough that I decided we should push it through this month, especially as I saw early on how much gold was being generated and thus wanted to make one set gold-only to provide a sink (as another thread is also suggesting).

So I thought the surprise of more sets of curios would be welcome rather than causing anyone angst! Apologies. I'm not sure how the lantern and asp fell through the cracks. Rather than cause more grief, we'll just hold them back this month and use them for some future release.

Don't be discouraged overall the curios are pretty neat. A plan rarely unfolds perfectly.

Xenthos:

It'd be nice if the subsequent sets were cheaper on the credit-front, simply because a lot were already thrown into the initial wave / other purchases. Though I don't know how plausible that will be, you could adjust the coin ratio once you switch to the new packages and adjust prices from there.

Or if there was only one more credit-set instead of two more (so 3 curios per set, instead of 4).

Erm, with the 30% artifact sale, the price can't get much lower! Anyway, I really can't lower costs and don't want to mess with coin ratios (not sure how that would help really--increase chance of more curios?). Also, there's a lot of coding already dedicated to this so making dropping to 3 curios per collection would probably derail our ability to release anything this weekend which is what was scheduled and announced on the newsletter.

We're going ahead as planned. I know some people may think it's unfair but we're pretty committed to what we have laid out. This was meant to be a pleasant surprise and curios aren't going away so there will be plenty of opportunity in the future to fill out collections. It's not like they are must-have items!

Sounds good to me. I hope the effect isn't something that affects combat. :/ Should be flavour only.

It's too late, I now have 4 sets that I must complete. They must be done!

Getting curios from Wheel spinning is pretty much completely pointless. There are so many curio bits out there that your chances of getting any specific curio you need are close to zilch (I spun thousands of coins and only got something like 12 curio pieces that Tau was looking for from multiple old sets, of a list of about a hundred or so-- and this was before you could get new pieces from the Wheel!). If instead of giving random curios it gave a 'voucher' that you could trade in for a curio of choice that would be a good option (gambling coins for the chance at actually getting pieces you need).

That's why I was talking about reducing coin rate and lowering the price; fewer coins = less ability to gamble on the wheel for a Quick Profit, which means that a lower price would be an option without destabilizing things; that said, if the price is set from On High, there's not much you can do about that.

I'm just trying to come up with ways for people who have already thrown a ton into them to still be able to participate. For myself, I'm thinking that my original foray into this has suddenly become something rather more expensive than expected, but I'm OCD enough that I'm probably going to try to finish all four. :(

Edit: The above vouchers would probably make it too easy, on second thought. But still. Getting curios on the wheel isn't really a valid option, unfortunately; too many curio sets out there.

What if you could set yourself to a specific curio set, and when you get curio-bits from the wheel, there's a 50% chance of the curio being from that set (and 50% chance of being any curio)? That way you're still random, and you might get a ton of curio bits that you already have, but it at least raises the chances drastically of getting what you're looking for if nobody else has it to trade.

All of these lucky draw things are just that -- the luck of the draw. We shouldn't expect to get exactly what we want when we buy crates, and I tsk tsk at those who think they should. If anything, maybe this will make people think twice about rubbing curios, and start storing them for future trading. Those who have a million credits to throw around will always be better placed to get the curios they want -- but they get what they want when they want it anyway. So what.

It is what it is. I was a little bummed when I realised there were more to collect, and I didn't account for it, but MAN. THERE ARE MORE TO COLLECT! So what if they become more expensive after the sale. They'll be around, still, and maybe they'll be made available for purchase with gold in the future.

I can't be upset about collecting a bunch of neat toys that are enchantable, potentially replacing my runed brooches, which have an effect once you collect a set. It's a pretty interesting promotion, in my opinion.

Thanks Estarra, and everyone who helped create them!

It's definitely an interesting promotion, no way around that. And one that I'm going to continue participating in. :P

I'm just seeing it getting harder and harder to complete a specific set as more are introduced.

I agree, haters gonna hate.

...So what effects will a complete set give.