Pretty sure this has happened to everyone, in every organization. If you didn't want to get jumped, I'd suggest clearing yourself of this:


Janalon is an enemy of the Holy Grand Duchy of Magnagora.
Janalon was enemied on 21st Vestian 281.
Janalon was enemied by Teruelle.
The reason for the enemying: 'raiding with Prav, Crek and Vadi'

Any organization enemy will get jumped by members of that organization. There are no exceptions, the 'Magnagoran grief squad' is just a laughable attempt at deflecting blame, when I could just say the 'Celestian grief squad' was in full force killing Kayde. The blame is on the game's mindset of combat offplane and Avenger protected areas, not on any player taking advantage of it.

Gaudiguch grief squad, ASSEMBLE.

I'll jump you, Sojiro <3

Lame kills are lame, no question there.

Though chuckling at some of the stern faces saying "that's uncool bros"

Then again, I suppose it could be worse. It could be something along the lines of constantly jumping noobs(not to be mistaken with novices, but sure novices can be counted here too) and then using that as a basis to brag about your 1337 pk skills. Not that any of us know anyone who would do that sort of thing, nor support that type of behavior for the sole purpose of "winning".

tldr: Sucks for you Janalon, welcome to lame PK as usual :(

The thing about 'just clear your status' is that the vast majority of places won't allow it. I know that we won't clear anyone who is 'at war' with us, and generally won't unenemy someone who isn't officially an 'ally'.

So unless you've already issued a fine, that doesn't really fly. I'm also generally not cool with "You're an enemy so DIIIIIE, I get to attack you any time and any place, because of ENEEEEEEMIESSSS", I think it's really poor RP. Unfortunately, because of the Avenger mechanic, that's the standard of PK (and RP) for Lusternia: "me GOOD, you BAD, me SMAAAAASH"

We must all band together and shame people who do lame things.

Sojiro:

Gaudiguch grief squad, ASSEMBLE.

Forum shame squad, ASSEMBLE!

Enyalida:

I'm also generally not cool with "You're an enemy so DIIIIIE, I get to attack you any time and any place, because of ENEEEEEEMIESSSS", I think it's really poor RP. Unfortunately, because of the Avenger mechanic, that's the standard of PK (and RP) for Lusternia: "me GOOD, you BAD, me SMAAAAASH"

Yeah, I sorta frown on this mindset too. Unless it's someone bashing shallach or illithoid, etc. Ganking someone in an IC'ly defended area regardless of their combative ability I'm fine with. I mean, after a certain point in time a player should know that being in certain places is going to get you killed. But manse jumping, or jumping bashers in lowbie areas(Like Krokani, man who cares about those one-eyed freaks?!).. it's like, are you really that bored? Go raid a plane or something if you are that bored, at least then you will get people who fight back.

Though I do have to agree with Silv too, let's not be hypocritical and try to be all 'frown on you Mag greef squad!' and act like every other org doesn't have the same group of people who do the exact same thing. They know who they are, they don't need to be called out, they also don't care and follow Enyalida's mindset of "welp, enemy status or part of enemy org = fair game so 'winning!'"

I can't tell if this sort of thing has gotten worse, better, or is the same as it's always been since I started. Ooooowellllll

Draylor:

Lame. That's just low. Go gank somebody who fights. Love you to try that on me, Izekeal.

Edit: Also, for the record, just because somebody is envoy and security means nothing. How often do you see the guy fighting? Like... never.

Like when you killed Tsianina?

Morbo:


Like when you killed Tsianina?

And your point is? She was killed on ethereal, as an enemy and also not longer after being branded such.

I smell an envoy report brewing...

...I'm not really sure there is anything to envoy, unless we can mechanically fix player attitude.

If so, I'm all for it.

Crap, forum po-po's here, time to run. Facebook goooooo.

The only thing envoy-able would be the Avenger system itself, and I really don't think it's on the table, for better or for worse.

It could be worse, Jozen decapitated Winnae for influencing the guards before he could a couple days ago and they're supposed to be allies :lol: He did get disciplined for it though.

It's also not good for Mag's business for them to be doing that, but then it's not my call and you are an enemy.

Shamarah:

this thread has potential.

(in before Eventru)

You called?

We're fine with discussing things, but this, in general, just seems like it's going the absolute wrong direction for 'productive' or 'useful'. In fact, I believe this thread has already lobbied for a change of address, right on the corner of 'Personal Attacks' and 'Idiots!'. It hasn't moved there just yet, but the boxes are packed up and on the sidewalk and there's no furniture in sight. I see a few other infamous moving companies, who have already gotten to work.

So we'll just go ahead and foreclose before they move in. Lost in transmission, as it were.

Aethermanses are considered off-plane and thus open PK. If people are using aethershops to jump others, well, I'm sure it won't be long before that shop develops a reputation, and it won't be too long before it either becomes a brawl or that shop won't get business - they'll either ban the attackers (and if they're cycling shops, I'm sure other shops will too) or they simply will have to face the reality they've paid a 750-1350 credits for a big storage space (or a very small clientele).