I will totally do that.

Bollikin's is still the saddest of all the books. But oh man, what will I look forward to now HOW WILL I GO ON?

Clearly, write Divine fanfic.

That last book really only confirms Mael's outlook on the world as being 'a dream' or 'a lie' (depending on ambient levels of optimism), which honestly isn't really what he hoped to get out of that particular perspective on life. All in all though, it doesn't really break my immersion just makes it... weirder. In a good way.

Still rather great (if sad) reading.

Sad to see this come to an end, but enjoyed it a great deal over the years.

The new elder books have been sparking ideas and the desire to come back. (evil)

Nice to see some mentions of the races at the end attacking Kethuru, and even though they died, it shows that lots of mortals have the potential to bug the crap out of a soulless.

Yay awesomeness!

(also, on the note of the Other, I have a feeling my character would go "Oh, so that's why I do stupid suicidal stuff" and then go on living their life, can't say much has really changed, not like the Other is really going anywhere!)

I found the last three books to be the best by far, and not just because they were released together. They were really depressing, yet revealed quite a few interesting tibits of information. Personally I love the concept of the Other.

Curiously, are we ever going to get a book written by the fates?

Am I the only one who's likely going to have his character(s) (or at least most of them) vehemently refuse to acknowledge the Others, even on a subconscious level? Like, they read every part around this, then their eyes just sort of slip past that part and they immediately forget it, and any mention of it, and any time anyone brings it up again later they simply won't 'hear' it.

Probably not to be honest. It's probably something that is going to be ignored in most roleplay, those who believe in it will still be regarded as mad.

I'm intending to refuse to believe it on the grounds that it's scientifically unfalsifiable, at least until Hallifax perfects its Quantum Severance device. Clearly Meridian was suffering from psychosis following such a prolonged solitude and the loss of the other Elders.

I think I'm gonna have to go on without it. The game is more fun if its characters are people, not puppets.

QFT

Who said anything about "puppets"?

If you forget about the OOC implications (connection to us as players), it's been a key thing to a lot of religious philosophy, such as the Christian belief in a Divine Plan (which basically means everything has been planned out from the get go) or Predestination, as well as implications about souls--do the souls "control" us. There's a lot of speculation about souls in other fiction, other religions and philosophies, etc. All they said is that the other soul thinks it's a game and in resonates, than can mean a lot of things, especially when you think of going up the chain.



Says the citizen who's Divine patron is the actual merging of two separate Elder Gods. Two Souls? Hmm. Sounds like you got some proof of your quantum link right there. (Then there Avechna too!)

I don't see the connection between "two Elder Gods can merge" and "adventurers are paired with people in another universe", Phred. (Even leaving off the abuse of the word "quantum".)

I was just implying there is more to the soul than meets the eye. Can it be divided. Is the soul the same as consciousness.

I was thinking of the Qubit theory in general, as I think that might apply to both this final book and the existences of both Avechna and Elostian. (That is occupying the same space yet different).

Although Quantum mechanics can give people a headache.

The number of steps between what you're saying and what Ileein is saying by "scientifically falsifiable" is considerable.

The point is the scientific unfalsifiability-- that is, it is impossible to do tests to determine the truth or falsehood of the claim in question, i.e. all adventurers are inhabited by souls from elsewhere. The idea is that if something isn't falsifiable, it's not worth believing in.

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I'm not sure why you're jumping from "soul" to "completely different soul that thinks it's a game." The soul is presumably something that exists in Lusternia (wrack references it, it can be afflicted, and so on) so you might well infer that it controls the body. You could make a bunch of interesting arguments about idealist monism and Descartianism and stuff there, but none of them really remove autonomy from the character in an uninteresting way. The problem is when someone ELSE'S soul controls the body, which even if for some reason you pretend that isn't us clearly comes into it here. That's the puppetry part.

It seems to me that even if you ARE a puppet, looking at it objectively it shouldn't matter. You've lived your life up to that point without worries about being controlled by some extra-real source, unless you were insane. It kind of strikes me like the premise of the Matrix, in that if you don't know, you obviously don't care. And if you DO know, you can rightly take a stance on that, but you could just as easily say "This is how it is and has been, why bother?" and your life goes on pretty much unchanged. Well, unless someone appears to give you a pill that severs the Other from you, then it would get interesting.

If you're already the paranoid sort, you could work with this. If not, I think you could really easily just say "Eh, I've been ok so far, not going to worry about things I can't change."