I get that now. It wasn't entirely clear to me you were advocating a classic skeptical approach. Although you can do some things to research souls here, unlike the real world.



Not necessarily. Here's the exact lines



There's nothing I see there that is about it actually controlling, at best just influencing. There's nothing directly there that would indicate to me I'm under the control of another, other than our own OOC perspective.

Also, you have to consider the fact that if that is what makes a demigod avatar who can slice through armies different than a farmer on the Moors, well, I'd take that deal any day, I think.

Oh, now I see why you wanted me to take out the perspective about players. I guess if you act like they're just along for the ride then it's okay, if egregious.

I don't know how I feel about these 'Others'. I am a bit sadden by such an idea being in an IG book. Of course this does open RP things for people who choose to...

Just because it's in an in-game book doesn't mean you have to accept it as fact!

It seems to me more a little nod to how most of us inevitably instill some of ourselves into our characters.

I mean, Akui certainly shares some of my innate paranoia and admittedly sometimes volitile moods. This won't really phase her though, even if put to the question of it. I mean, if you already have a deep feeling that someone somewhere is mucking about with you behind your back, then having it proven is validating as much as disturbing.

Sort of a "See?! I told you that already." moment.

Still, mixed feelings about its portrayal in the history. I don't feel like it detracts from it in any measurable way. At least the portal-mugwump person didn't turn to the reader and say "Hey! GIT OUTTA THERE." and wonk herself on the side of the head like she was trying to dislodge some water or something.

Yes, but I don't have to believe in gravity, yet that is true. (not the best example but still).

and you, Nocht (and Glomdoring gods in general) need to be more active.

Glomdoring doesn't have to believe it's soullessy goodness, but....



Oh, hello Nocht.

Belated thought: My last post was in no way an attempt by me to stick my fingers in my ears and go "LALALALALALA", but was more me saying "kudos" to the admin, and pointing out potential roleplay avenues for it that don't tear the fabric of the multiverse asunder.

Also, the Fates are clearly working for the forces of Entropy, and therefore must be stopped at all costs!

Further - No mortal can prove the theory of the Other. The Elder Gods may or may not mention it. But mortals have no ability to see it, sense it, etc.

The fates said that the mortals were quite unaware of the others, not that they always would be or that they don't have the power to eventually prove it, or am I missing something? I certainly wouldn't want to be the person to try and prove/dis-prove the other (not without fully intending my end result to be "I've no idea.", at least).

But all Meridian had to do to figure it out was 'look into their eyes'...

Only after being told by the fates. Meridian realized something was different from the portal but couldn't figure out what. The Fates had to explain it. Up until now Meridian was probably, besides the Fates, the only ones who knew. Not even Xyl who built the portal knew what it was doing. He just knew it'd do good.

Xyl knew, that's why he splintered. He was also given the same instruction to look into their eyes.

Xyl probably found out once he got the message.

Xenthos'd

From an IG perspective, it's actually a pretty creepy development. Our characters aren't aware of videogames, obviously, so they have no frame of reference to encompass this. An alien presence from a different dimension latching onto your subconscious? As far as our characters know, those who venture through the Portal are possessed (or at least infested) by something even worse than a Soulless.

If you take it as written, it's more symbiotic -- the Other is explicitly described as being a sympathetic and compatible spirit.

It's also made clear they don't "believe" in Lusternia as a functioning world, though. If it's just a game to them, who's to say what kind of dangerous situations they'd be willing to plonk their Lusternian counterpart in, sympathetic to them or not? The fact those who venture through the Portal value their self-preservation much less than those who don't would tend to support this - whether they come back from their death or not.

Admittedly, urth are disturbingly sociopathic ingame, killing thousands upon thousands individually over the course of their lives and stealing their precious gold and nobody seems to think that this is at all odd. Except the denizens, who haven't been through the portal and thus don't have a mindmeld going on with a complete monster that places no value on Lusternian life except as a game peice.

Meridian was an Elder God. No mortal can look into the eyes of another mortal, through the depths of the layers of the soul, and find what Meridian saw.