I like hypnoticgaze too. It's nice for Telepathy.

What's the power constant on quickburn smudge?

4p for a quickburn. Disgustingly expensive. :|

Someone should get a giant toad beast with hypnoticgaze innate.

You're such a silly man.

Imagine if you lit a desert, lit another during the delay, and then quickburned one in the middle of those two hitting. You could do some nice burst bleeding. I also think quickburn desert would rock against a choke user. Eat blindness + bleeding, dirty choke (ab)user.

Am a bit disappointed by hypnoticgaze, it's pretty crappy for me. I can certainly see how it's useful for a telepath but that's the only class I can really see making good use of it. I have an ISSUE ME in at the moment asking if the skill could be removed from my beast and the trains refunded so I don't have to pay for a whackadoru just because of a skill change I couldn't have predicted.

All the other changes look good. The shrivel change makes me very happy.

What's the mana cost? I realize it's kinda random, but it could sneak in an epilepsy or something as you crucified or some such. I don't really know what other beast ability would be more useful.

Rofl. Beast blackout!


A fluffy haired mammoth with enormous ears gazes intently at you, and you feel yourself drawn into his eyes, which swirl about in a kaleidoscopic array of swirling colours. Your vision slowly fades into nothing but curiously floating purple spots.
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Your senses return to you as the blackout ends.

2000, which is way too much. And it's not just "kinda random" - assuming each affliction has an equal probability you've got a 1/13 chance of getting what you want (actually slightly better than that because of the possibility of a double or triple proc, but still):

Azure: Dizziness, Cerulean: Confusion, Crimson: Paralysis, Emerald: Vertigo, Fuschia: Daydreaming, Lavender: Pacifism, Magenta: Blindness, Mauve: Vapors, Pink: Hallucinations, Purple: Blackout, Scarlet: Fear, Sapphire: Dementia, Topaz: Stupidity.

Some of them are certainly neat, like blackout and confusion and daydreaming, but a bunch of them are crap, and most of the other ones that aren't crap can be delivered by beast poison (which also has the advantage of not costing beast mana).

Well I like it. It's fun, it's useful, and it's not retardedly op.

Yeah, it isn't terrible, I just think in most circumstances for most classes it would be better to just spit manta or dulak. (But, again, I can see telepaths making good use of it.)

It's down to 1500 mana now. I actually love the ability - it will go well with hexes/fae to add a nice extra affliction. The mental afflictions will go well with jinx too. Also consider the possibility that this can sometimes add 2 or even 3 afflictions at once.

I think it'd be decent for Nihilists.

Contagion + Chill Aura + Sting + Stored Dominate Force + Double demon afflict + 1-3 colours + action of choice.

And if you have the Grim, you could land all of these under a blackout, which would be narsty.

Imagine all of that with astrologer aeon...

Nihilist combat is already random enough though that I'd rather just spit dulak to know that they have a 66% chance of getting stupidity than use this ability and have to pray for a super-lucky proc. It's not a terrible ability, I just can't really see myself using it.

Even better, imagine all of that with Astrologer Constellation with a quad afflict due to skull retrograde.

Ok.. tarantula change...



This was retarded. Tarantula is parallel to Badger... Lets look at this..
You have:
Badger: +1 con and 10 DMP increased damage vs Tarantula: +1 con and 10 dmp against cold
Fox: +1 dex and 10 dmp cold/FIRE resistance vs Viper: +1 dex and high resistance to dendroxin
Vixen: +1 cha and lvl 2 seduction influence vs Widow: +1 cha and high resistance to mactans.

Prefer cloning over what looks like outright bias AGAIN.

My official recommendation if you want 'unique' is:
Tarantula: Chance to shrug 'distractions of the hunt' (fear, lust, love, )
Viper: Increases bleeding you do to others.
Widow: Make venoms cause minor bleeding (include in this songs that seem relevant).


WARNING THE BELOW WAS WRITTEN AS A MINI RANT TO EXPRESS MY LEVEL OF TWITCH
So now tarantula is still far from being as good as badger and is now ALSO worse DMP wise than fox. While the other two ents mentioned were untouched and still entirely :censored:. Well done admin.

I have to admit, it looks a little odd that the Admin give Seren better ecology familiars. The badger is far and away the best of all.

It's a good thing the admin didn't give Seren better ecology familiars then.

Fox seems better than Tarantula for tankiness and resistance to two specific poisons isn't very useful.

Bonus to bleeding damage, plus to shrugging poisons and level 2 paranoia influence sounds more in line with Hartstone familiars.