Fight me more. I still choke in choke.

Guardians should be dominating in choke.. just sayin'

Actually, Nihilists are Anti-Choke. Celestines, not so much.

Anyone with passives should be doing well in choke. Nihilists are better in choke I would agree, though.

Well. Think of it this way. If you have a Shadowdancer and a Celestine going up against each other in Choke. Unless the Angel is wrathed, there is no way that the passive affliction output of the Celestine is going to beat the Shadowdancer's. A Celestine also has no direct way to turn the offense of a Shadowdancer against them. Nihilists, on the other hand, have Disfigure, Crucify, Ectoplasm, Contagion, Tail Sting, passive Shackles, Dominate. They are, in my opinion, the best geared class to take on Shadowdancers.

And the nymph. q_q Sooo annoying waiting for vapors to proc and then whoops! Nymph ninja!

^ obvious. Coldaura too. Angel, heretic/inf/inq would work well too.

You just listed a at least three trans skills required, trans discipline is needed to use inquisition. Yet as a Shadowdancer I can see a viable offense in less than three trans skills. Our mana kill isnt even really an option at the moment and a.... um.. great person... handled radiance and so it is STILL useless for the intentions we gave it.



Most Celestines are training, if you think Razenth is the best wow do you have alot to learn. I think he will admit he is kind of crappy and chokes in ALOT of combat.

Rylen: In your opinion who is the best Celestine?

And If you want to be a top tier combatant you're going to need more than 3 trans skills as -any- guild.

Dude, why would you even consider using radiance? Damage-kill for a Celestine is kind of unviable. Even with addiction and vapors and aeon and whatever else you might have in mind, it's not as good an option like Inquisition is. Unless you don't talk highest tier, in which case, Lusternia is balanced around omnitrans. (Or used to be.)

Thoros and Amaru. Narsrim played one very intelligently too. But that had more to do with his tactical use of skills other than the guild skills.

I think he means "at the moment".

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What Esano said.

Unless radiance was going to be buffed to do an insane amount of damage, it wouldn't help you get a damage kill.

And absolves are possible, just not really against people with a lot of mana. In group fights you can take out warriors who are surged and/or lowbies.

Other than that you have to rely on inquisition/soulless, which is only good in 1v1 fights. In groups Celestines are more of a support class. You can vapors people, aeon people, hangedman people, etc, etc. Coordinating with a mage in small group fights you can almost always get an absolve, have your buddy either doing mindblast or giving clots, they'll either get mindbursted, absolved, or bleed to death - from my experience the absolve usually happens first.

Mages can actually just straight up drain mana with evenblade and the mag equivalent.

Redmasque.

I'm somewhat curious as to what would happen if Celest/Mag kicked out Terentia/Fain from their Pantheon. Would the skill change?

It would become Legion and Brightest Light. And the effects would change. Legion would be a delayed instakill that brought the user up to satiated and Brightest Light would make the person gouge out both eyes with a rusty spoon and slit their own throat with a senso envenomed knife so they will never have to see something like that again.

I guess this goes here.

ANNOUNCE NEWS #1441
Date: 11/22/2009 at 22:13
From: Charune, Lord of the Hunt
To : Everyone
Subj: Streamlining and Bugfixes

o Eyepeck skills now show eye side afflicted to target and includes side
in cure message.

o Fractured arm's cure message now specifies left or right side.

o Broken wrist now specifies which wrist was cured (left or right) in
its cure line.

o You will receive a message when no longer affected by bardic
attraction.

o Stillwater will only cause drowning in the enemies of the demesne
owner.

o Divine fire is no longer forceable.

o Fixed bug where fused runes were not hitting in demesnes.

o Killing songs will not continue through sanctuary.

o You can now withdraw dreamweaving motes again.

o Radiance now affects heretic-line people as well as undead, per recent
envoy report, rather than boosting damage.

o The Sparkatron now costs slightly more equilibrium and does slightly
less damage when Fozblurbbling.

o The powerlog summary was updated to account for the Blessing of
Nintoba.

o GRID CHANNEL TALK will no longer be forced to lowercase.

o GUILD PRIVS now includes mention of GUILD SKILLS and commands for
editing GHELP and CGHELP files.

o Kata Grappling will no longer prevent Music Majorthird and other
skills used on yourself.

o Tracking Conceal cannot be used on someone else's traps while under
grace or otherwise unable to make aggressive actions. You can still
conceal your own traps while protected by grace.

o Various psionics ranged attacks were miscalculating range under some
circumstances; range should now be consistent, and depends on skill in
Psionics and its specialization.

Enjoy!

Penned by My hand on the 18th of Estar, in the year 251 CE.

Woot for fused runes being fixed. Once my system's aff/cure lines are updated maybe I'll get a chance to try them, harhar.

wonder if this means embedded motes work again now, too