Tahtetso instakill

by Unknown

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Unknown2009-01-28 21:43:52
Some people like to argue with me that it is possible to cure the chestpain affliction before the instakill can be performed on the next move (assuming you are able to apply regeneration as soon as afflicted with it).

Unfortunately it's not possible. (Hope you read this thread, Desitrus.)

7469h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w elrxbp<>-west
west

With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your gut with a silver tahto etched with gold.
75 approximated wounds added to gut.
As you are stabbed in the gut, your flesh is drilled until your spine snaps.
Shrugged
With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your chest with a silver tahto etched with gold.
75 approximated wounds added to chest.
You cough and wheeze as you are struck, the vibrations constricting your lungs.
You gasp and clutch your chest as it is struck with a crack.
apply regeneration to chest
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w elrxbp<>--634
west

You are paralysed and cannot do that.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w elrxbp<>-
You must have two legs to do that.
diagnose
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w elrxbp<>-
You are:
Variables and classes reset to their startup values
experiencing heavy chest pain.
paralysed on the left side.
immobile due to a severed spine.
suffering a broken nose.
blind.
afflicted by horrible asthma.
sprawled on the ground.
an insomniac.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
You are paralysed and cannot do that.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
You are paralysed and cannot do that.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your chest.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
Your aura is up!
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
You may be healed by a scroll again.
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
Now now, don't be so hasty!
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w lrxbp<>-
++
6835h, 7548m, 7746e, 10p, 23888en, 6559w elrxbp<>-invoke green

Pressing your hands together before you, you concentrate on your heart chakra. An emerald glow suffuses your chest and you feel your afflictions drain away.
Your left side tingles as feeling returns.
Your bronchial tubes open up and your asthma is cured.
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-634
invoke green
invoke green

7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-invoke green

You may apply another salve to yourself.
apply regeneration to gut
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-invoke green

7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your gut.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-apply health to head
invoke green

You take out some healing potion and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head completely heals.
Trigger {HealthAlarm} removed.
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-invoke green

7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-invoke green

Tiny tremors spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-invoke green

7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-
You may apply another salve to yourself.
invoke green
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-invoke green

7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23908en, 6549w lrxbp<>-invoke green

Narsrim twirls a silver tahto etched with gold elegantly, then drives it into your chest with all his might.
A sudden spasm of pain jolts you before all feeling fades away as your frail heart explodes inside your chest. You twitch helplessly on the ground before falling still in the calm repose of death.
You have been slain by Narsrim.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
The mortal threads of your being severed, you scream in agony as the Divine spark within you enfolds your body with scorching flames.
This room has not been mapped.
On the edge of the abyss.

This was the second time I died to the instakill. I was spamming green, hoping that chestpain would be cured before I got killed. Unfortunately for me, it didn't. There was no lag on my side and I applied regeneration to chest as soon as I got hit with it.

Focusing on his left arm, you strike at Narsrim with an iron maiden war hammer. You strike his knuckles with a loud crack.
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26566en, 24405w elxkdb<>-
Focusing on his right arm, you strike at Narsrim with an iron maiden war hammer. You hit his right arm forcefully, leaving an enormous bruise on the forearm.
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-
Tiny tremors spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-
Several flies from the black cloud of filth fly into the mouth of Narsrim, making him gag and choke.
You sense the mark left on Narsrim darkening slightly.
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-stand
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim larm
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim rarm

10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-
10106h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdb<>-
With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your gut with a silver tahto etched with gold.
75 approximated wounds added to gut.
As you are stabbed in the gut, your flesh is drilled until your spine snaps.
With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your chest with a silver tahto etched with gold.
75 approximated wounds added to chest.
You cough and wheeze as you are struck, the vibrations constricting your lungs.
You gasp and clutch your chest as it is struck with a crack.
You may eat or smoke another herb.
9271h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdbp<>-
9271h, 4373m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24405w exkdbp<>-
Narsrim takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his arms.
9471h, 4298m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24375w exkdbp<>-
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
9471h, 4298m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24375w exkdbp<>--635
stand
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim larm
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim rarm

9471h, 4298m, 7746e, 2p, 26555en, 24389w exkdbp<>-
Narsrim eats a sparkleberry.
9471h, 4298m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24389w exkdbp<>-
9471h, 4298m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24389w exkdbp<>-
You may apply another salve to yourself.
apply regeneration to chest
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-stand
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim larm
maneuver perform windpipe narsrim rarm
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your chest.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-apply health to head
invoke green
invoke green

You take out some healing potion and quickly rub it on your head.
The deep damage in your head completely heals.
Trigger {HealthAlarm} removed.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w exkdbp<>-invoke green

You may apply another salve to yourself.
apply regeneration to gut
++
++
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-invoke green
invoke green

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your gut.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.
9471h, 4284m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-invoke green

You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-528
invoke green

You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-invoke green

You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
Narsrim suddenly starts scratching at an itch like mad.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-stand
maneuver perform eye down narsrim

You find that you are not yet ready to perform that feat.
9999h, 4542m, 7746e, 2p, 26575en, 24386w elrxkdbp<>-
Narsrim twirls a silver tahto etched with gold elegantly, then drives it into your chest with all his might.
A sudden spasm of pain jolts you before all feeling fades away as your frail heart explodes inside your chest. You twitch helplessly on the ground before falling still in the calm repose of death.
You have been slain by Narsrim.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A stalk of faeleaf falls out of your inventory.
A sturdy iron bar falls out of your inventory.
A sturdy iron bar falls out of your inventory.
A sturdy iron bar falls out of your inventory.
A sturdy iron bar falls out of your inventory.
A sturdy iron bar falls out of your inventory.
Your body begins the process of transforming into a lich.
0h, 4542m, 7746e, 0p, 26575en, 24386w elrx<>-

Didn't have salve balance at first but it came a second after I was afflicted with it (I had applied mending right before the copy/pasted part for broken leg). Again, as soon as I saw chestpain, I know from experience it's not curable by the time the monk regains balance so in my helpless attempt to try and cure it I spammed green without power like a noob (doh.)

Charune? Fain? Someone? Is this going to be fixed sometime soon? This is incredibly overpowered and requires no skill on behalf of the monk. I've been killed by Otem and Yurika the same exact way by this, and I have never been able to cure chestpain unless I used green and was lucky.
Unknown2009-01-28 21:50:16
Here is the entire log, in full colour. This is the second time I got lamed by the instakill, he came to me mid-deffing so unfortunately I was unable to provide an offense. Nevertheless, despite completely perfect curing, it is not possible to cure Chestpain before the tahtetso can perform the instakill.

http://nogfx.org/logs/588
Ashteru2009-01-28 21:52:34
Why are you applying to gut once the regen to the chest went through? I have no clue how to cure Tathetso, but that might be a problem, eh.
Unknown2009-01-28 21:56:51
Ashteru has a good point. Doesn't the second regeneration override the first then?

And, no one's curing is perfect, not yours and not mine. tongue.gif
Celina2009-01-28 22:07:46
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Jan 28 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ashteru has a good point. Doesn't the second regeneration override the first then?

And, no one's curing is perfect, not yours and not mine. tongue.gif


7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-invoke green
You may apply another salve to yourself.
apply regeneration to gut
7469h, 7488m, 7746e, 7p, 23888en, 6535w lrxbp<>-

Makes no sense that it would override the previous cure after he got salve balance. If it does for some reason, then that's just stupid.

Is there a massive delay on chest pain curing?
Unknown2009-01-28 22:08:20
QUOTE (Ashteru @ Jan 28 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you applying to gut once the regen to the chest went through? I have no clue how to cure Tathetso, but that might be a problem, eh.


Severspine.

With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your gut with a silver tahto etched with gold.
As you are stabbed in the gut, your flesh is drilled until your spine snaps. - severspine
With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your chest with a silver tahto etched with gold.
You cough and wheeze as you are struck, the vibrations constricting your lungs. - asthma
You gasp and clutch your chest as it is struck with a crack. - chestpain
Charune2009-01-28 22:11:44
I never saw the chest application in the log, Thoros. I see the attempt to apply by the system, but it looks eaten up by amnesia.

Also - applying regeneration to different body parts will not override the first regeneration when salve balance returns so long as it's different body parts.
Catarin2009-01-28 22:12:08
Regeneration applying only resets on the same body part. So him applying to gut when he got balance wouldn't affect that he'd already applied to chest. If he had applied to chest again it would have reset the application. At least that is how it has always worked before. Could be a ninja change if someone wanted to test it.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:13:51
Apparently you people don't know how regeneration curing works. You can apply regeneration to each bodypart once, until the affliction on that bodypart is cured. Applying regeneration to gut does not override the chest pain curing.
Xenthos2009-01-28 22:14:41
QUOTE (Charune @ Jan 28 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never saw the chest application in the log, Thoros. I see the attempt to apply by the system, but it looks eaten up by amnesia.

Also - applying regeneration to different body parts will not override the first regeneration when salve balance returns so long as it's different body parts.

You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your chest.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.

Just after the diagnose.

The other one has a chest salve apply, too.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:15:16
QUOTE (Charune @ Jan 28 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never saw the chest application in the log, Thoros. I see the attempt to apply by the system, but it looks eaten up by amnesia.

Also - applying regeneration to different body parts will not override the first regeneration when salve balance returns so long as it's different body parts.


....

Edit: Nevermind. What Xenthos said.
Ashteru2009-01-28 22:15:30
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Severspine.

With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your gut with a silver tahto etched with gold.
As you are stabbed in the gut, your flesh is drilled until your spine snaps. - severspine
With a quick spin, Narsrim strikes your chest with a silver tahto etched with gold.
You cough and wheeze as you are struck, the vibrations constricting your lungs. - asthma
You gasp and clutch your chest as it is struck with a crack. - chestpain

Ah, yeah. Thought it might need a follow-up application to chest or something.

(Why can they do Severspine so easy and I have to work for it. sad.gif )
Charune2009-01-28 22:16:24
QUOTE (Xenthos @ Jan 28 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your chest.
Trigger {salvealarm} removed.
Trigger {lagalarm} removed.

Just after the diagnose.

Ah, I missed that.

What does look odd is the commands were sent in this order: apply regeneration to chest, diagnose. They come out in reverse. Short of lines being omitted in the log, not sure how this would happen.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:16:51
QUOTE (Ashteru @ Jan 28 2009, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, yeah. Thought it might need a follow-up application to chest or something.

(Why can they do Severspine so easy and I have to work for it. sad.gif )


That shouldn't even be your question. The question should be, why the heck can Narsrim mangle my left leg, mangle my right leg, then follow up with severspine/chestpain, 2 more regeneration afflictions? 4 delayed cures, all followed up one by one.
Unknown2009-01-28 22:18:08
QUOTE (Charune @ Jan 28 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, I missed that.

What does look odd is the commands were sent in this order: apply regeneration to chest, diagnose. They come out in reverse. Short of lines being omitted in the log, not sure how this would happen.


Right before I copy/pasted was the diagnose command. But everything you need to know is in the full colour log.
Narsrim2009-01-28 22:18:41
wp tahto
It is a two-handed weapon.
Damage: 232 Precision: 262 Speed: 256

=====+=====

It is possible to cure chest pain with base balance. Is it possible against my super tahto + celerity? Probably not in some situations. However, this is the product of artifacts + shrine powers more so than the skill itself.
Narsrim2009-01-28 22:20:13
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That shouldn't even be your question. The question should be, why the heck can Narsrim mangle my left leg, mangle my right leg, then follow up with severspine/chestpain, 2 more regeneration afflictions? 4 delayed cures, all followed up one by one.


Of course, one must wonder why it should be possible (outside of my instant kill) for you to continuously tank 40 some combos in a row. We afflict fast, but hindering isn't all that exciting if you can't kill someone.

EDIT:

It's also not possible to mangle back-to-back like that. Those are all L5 momentum attacks, which I lose after performing them. Rather, I'm doing a L5 momentum attack followed by a L4 attack followed by a L5, etc.
Ashteru2009-01-28 22:22:13
Huh. Guess there isn't much else to do than to nerf maxed out speed, I guess.
Arix2009-01-28 22:22:38
QUOTE (Thoros LaSaet @ Jan 28 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That shouldn't even be your question. The question should be, why the heck can Narsrim mangle my left leg, mangle my right leg, then follow up with severspine/chestpain, 2 more regeneration afflictions? 4 delayed cures, all followed up one by one.


Because narsrim is the Undisputed King of Broken Skill Whoring
Unknown2009-01-28 22:23:49
QUOTE (Narsrim @ Jan 28 2009, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wp tahto
It is a two-handed weapon.
Damage: 232 Precision: 262 Speed: 256

=====+=====

It is possible to cure chest pain with base balance. Is it possible against my super tahto + celerity? Probably not in some situations. However, this is the product of artifacts + shrine powers more so than the skill itself.


Yurika has a regular tahto (216 speed, I will confirm with her), and is able to pull it off. (Without celerity)