Fairly sure it's not. It's probably not a tactic that would be viewed in a good light though, either.

Most things are forceable, with the exception of things like credit commands and certain combat abilities.

Sip vitae isn't blocked. Esano and I tested. See, trying out the skills is a useful thing...

Edit: I don't think it's the most admirable of attacks, but the odds of someone being on full power, when you've managed to get them stuck with powerspikes doesn't seem that insanely high, unless they are a non-com, in which case, you could just deathsong them and be done with it.

Why don't Caco have poison-based attacks, if the SS can have cold-based attacks?

You can force a lot of stuff... I can't believe people think it is so limited.

Compared with the other 3 specializations, Wildarrane seems to exist in a completely different dimension, let's just leave it at that. Not a bad idea though.

The Vitae trick is a really cheap oversight. The kind of stuff that should get removed without needing to pass through the Envoys

Well people will just start being off of max power when the fight us or keep vitae in their packs. But yeah, it's a pretty low blow.

Why would you nerf yourself with poison damage? You realize it's like the single most heavily soaked damage source in the game outside of physical, right?

Well, yes everyone and their mother except for Sadhyra and Shikha would be neutral or resistant to poison.
In the other hand, trying to damage kill a Warrior that just happens to have resistance to magic with our current setup is an exercise on futility.
Suggestions?

Make a new, viable race with a level 2 weakness to poison?

Give a race that already exists a level 2 weakness to poison?

That knight is more resistant to Poisons assuming omni-trans than he is magic. Have you played this game?

obviously not enough

EDIT:
I've never guildhopped and am only familiar with my own skills and the tidbits I've read from scryingpool, point and laugh if you want
If you see any other ridiculous statement floating around, feel free to tear it down with as much snarkiness as you deem necessary

Well, I did point out that it is the most or second-most soaked damage source in the game, then you decided to argue with me about magic sourced damage...

I don't think he was arguing so much as pointing out that a Krokani knight type, for example, could shrug us off.

I doubt anyone actually challenges the word of the Desipuss

Well, I don't know the exact numbers and just assumed that some random Krokani knight with both trans resilience and magic, would be more susceptible to poison than to magic... my fault

Leaving all that behind, feel free to keep those ideas coming

I think trying to keep it 'generalized' so Tarot isn't just great for Cacos would probably be a better way to suggest this. By making a Tarot card that burns plague affs, you're giving that skill to a bunch of other Tarot-users who really don't need it. It has a few balance ramifications (EDIT2: Specification: I don't know if Tarot using Guardians need this skill at all). If you want to add new cards to Tarot, maybe consider a card that would mesh well with both Cacophony and Starhymn?

I think working the opposite way would work better: look at Tarot and figure out what skills could be useful, then change Caco to mesh with them. Have you ever considered asking for the Moon afflictions to be considered plague afflictions - or at least a few of them? Perhaps, and this goes against my previous statement (at the risk of falling in to my own trap, here..), asking for Moon's affliction table to be expanded with the plague afflictions?


EDIT: From an outsider's point of view, Glamours looks so much more better than Tarot. Tarot probably needs a fixing or tweaking anyways. I'm looking at Glamours and finding that it meshes very well with stacking plague afflictions. Perhaps you need to expand your concept from plague of the body to also having plague of the mind (somebody suggested this back a few pages) and try to rally for a few mental afflictions that count as plagues?

Can we get a special report if we base it entirely on this movie?


People don't bother with Tarot for a few reasons. First one being that when bards were first released Tarot was all there was, since Illusions didn't have specs. Unfortunately, none of the Tarot skills really worked well with the music specs. Starhymn was a little better off since they could stick aeon better with Recessional, but other than that, Tarot wasn't too great. Second reason being Glamours was much more powerful when it first came out so everyone was pretty happy to make the switch.


I see Rodngar already said some of this but I'll repeat it anyway.
Making Tarot work better with Necroscream and Starhymn would be nice, and a good thing to look at after they get fixed. It'll be tricky though, because Tarot affects more than just bards, so we won't have as much freedom to make changes.

Can you be more specific?

Look at the amount of afflictions it provides you - Glamours provides afflictions with some level of priority, which may also happen to stack cures with your plagues, giving them less of a chance to be cured. I'm looking at the passive affliction rate of Glamours, mostly, not the actual afflictions. I think maybe there is some merit in utilizing the tools you have in Glamours in a different angle: your goal is to stack plagues and utilize your effects to the highest possible level. If they are too busy curing something else, you can pull off your songs with a larger breathing room/larger window to perform them again.

I figure maybe you need to match up some of the Glamours afflictions as 'insanity', so to speak, and try to classify them as plagues. I still believe that a big root of the problem with stacking plagues is that none of them correspond with one another, in terms of cure method. The best way to stick something is to use a lot of other things that are cured by the exact same balance.

EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong on passives, I'm likely looking at a very, very outdated list and I'm hearing 'Glamours nerf'..

Death tarot + aeon + blackout + stun + shackles + force + p5 = why in the world do you think tarot is weak?

Actually, if I ever put credits into my alt to be able to fight, that was going to be my plan.