Super Smash Bros Brawl Mafia

by Kiradawea

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Tekora2009-02-19 06:02:25
Damn, this makes me wish that Shaddus had saved his day-kill.
Dai2009-02-19 06:02:56
What the hell is a FoS?
Rika2009-02-19 06:04:02
What exactly was the trap?
Diamondais2009-02-19 06:06:38
QUOTE (Dai @ Feb 19 2009, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What the hell is a FoS?

Finger of Suspicion.
Tekora2009-02-19 06:10:38
Going to bed now.

Requesting a votecount when Kira wakes up.
Casilu2009-02-19 06:10:56
Dag, what were the two methods you got role-blocked by?
Fania2009-02-19 06:24:15
QUOTE (Tekora @ Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you don't think it's the best plan, then explain why, and explain well because you just incriminated yourself AGAIN.

If you can't, then sit down and shuddup. You'll have plenty of time tomorrow to explain it along with Dai, Kiriwe and Fania, because we're going to PUMMEL you four with FoS's.


There is no reason to be mean. It could be that he just jumped the gun, and he wasn't the only one who jumped the gun back there and voted. Even if he didn't realize that Dai did claim to be a loyalist at the time, he was afraid of Dai's rival, so he's most likely someone who would have a rival like one of the big four, wolf, one of the big four's enemies, ect. Killing him may upset the balance greatly one way or the other.

QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 18 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright, so we have 3 major suspects for now: Daganev, Harkux and Kiriwe.

Daganev:
1. Claims to have been role-blocked by two people.
2. FOS at Narsrim for revealing what his Poisonous Mushroom did, but has yet to have reveal what his own Maxim Tomato does.
3. Laid a trap using Dai, then claims Harkux falls into his trap. However, his trap caused Dai into a dangerous roleclaim. In addition, Harkux jumped on the vote bandwagon BEFORE Dai claimed. Daganev only revealed that he was using Dai as a bait AFTER Dai roleclaimed.

Setting the trap:

Harkux falling into it:

Daganev still posting and pressuring Dai even though Harkux has fallen into his trap:

Dai being pressured into revealing role:

Then Daganev finally reveals that he has laid a trap:


4. FOS at Furien for typo (may or may not be truth), after setting his trap, and not revealing his victim until after arguing with Furien a lot.

Coming up next, my thoughts on Harkux and Kiriwe.


Daganev was hit by a blast of water, and then he got sent to prison from what I remember. Daganev will be a fierce contender if left unchecked, however if we vote him down he may have something to counter it and will work against some of us later. I think he's more likely to have a plan formulated against his enemies than Harkux would.
Unknown2009-02-19 06:26:38
Harkux:
1. Posting very little
2. Jumping on bandwagons
3. Following Daganev's logic

Did I miss anything else for Harkux?

Kiriwe:
1. Suggests that there are characters not in the SSBB roster, then not revealing more.

QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Smash Sandbag

Well, I don't really see how S.A.W. is being scummy. I appreciated his run down on who may be left, because I am not really familiar with Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

And that list earlier? the one that had all the SSB characters in it? I don't think we are limited to just those characters as people in the game.

QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oops, forgot about his power :/

are the "loyalists" a recognized group? Because my win condition doesn't mention it... and I would be considered a "loyalist" if there was such a thing.

QUOTE (S.A.W. @ Feb 19 2009, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um.. so.. you're a character not on the Brawl Roster.. and you don't win with the Loyalists?

Anyone else besides me think she needs to claim?

I don't think she's scum, because that would be terribly bad play if she was.. but if there's a whole other group out there, I think we need to know about it.


2. Claims to be Midna only after someone suggested that she could be Midna

QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 05:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can clarify this one!

it would definately have screwed link over, unless I was around to make it better.

QUOTE (S.A.W. @ Feb 19 2009, 05:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're also not Zelda.. so.. Midna?

QUOTE (S.A.W. @ Feb 19 2009, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Except that Kiriwe hinted that she's a character not on the list, which is why I would like her to claim.

Kiriwe, who are you? You've given us so much already, you might as well add in a name if you're "safe". I don't care about abilities, just a name.

QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm Midna


3. All the No-lynch stuff that Shiri and the rest have mentioned.
Unknown2009-02-19 06:41:29
In addition, I found this:

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 19 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You may notice that both Llandros and Kiri voted for Dai just to keep things moving and to get more info. Harkux however clinched onto my specious reasoning of him being a threat if he doesn't get lynched. Thats why my vote is on Harkux and not the other two.


So we have:
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 05:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
alright! We finally have something to work with.
Vote: Dai to get this train a-rollin.

Lets not make this a repeat of the last game, though, kay? We don't need to have five million roleclaims in one Day, let's leave a little mystery biggrin.gif

And:
QUOTE (Llandros @ Feb 19 2009, 05:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Dai your only hope is to come clean at this point, otherwise we will likely lynch you. If you are somone important then you at least stand the chance of having someone protect you, if such a person exists.

Vote Dai

Versus:
QUOTE (Harkux @ Feb 19 2009, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vote: Dai

confused.gif Sorry, there's just a whole lot at risk if your rival DOES get benefitted by your death...


I don't see the difference. Harkux mentions your reasoning, but obviously the other two agree with you as well, otherwise they wouldn't have voted for Dai as well.

I also looked through the entire thing once through. I'd like to add this to stuff against Kiriwe.

When Archer asked if Kiriwe can confirm about her being Midna, all she did was this:
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Feb 18 2009, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

"Finally in Green we have Link, who won the Melee Tag Team Tournament with Zelda. Can he manage to grasp victory on his own?"

Link arrives on the arena in a swirl of wind and leaves and gives a friendly nod towards Zelda. "Hey Link. You better not lose." Midna yells from the stands.


Unknown2009-02-19 06:43:48
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 19 2009, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What exactly was the trap?

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 19 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok, I'll unvote furien and stick with my trap springer.

lurky voters who don't talk much disturb me.

vote harkux Sorry harkux but you fell into my Dai trap.

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 19 2009, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like to catch Mafia on day one by finding out who will jump on the beginning of a bandwagon for no real good reason, but will try to make it look like they have a good reason. (I've been mocked the last two times I did this, but both times I was correct, so nyah @shiri)

Sometimes this works sometimes it doesn't, but since Harkux has been lurking, voting and not helping, the fact that he fell for the trap (i.e. voted for dai after a few people already did so) make me want to stick to him like glue right now. I was just hoping we wouldn't have to have another role claim and that by now one of the people who claimed would be caught lying. But it looks like nobody is lying so all I have to go on is my trap.

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 19 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You may notice that both Llandros and Kiri voted for Dai just to keep things moving and to get more info. Harkux however clinched onto my specious reasoning of him being a threat if he doesn't get lynched. Thats why my vote is on Harkux and not the other two.

Fania2009-02-19 06:44:30
Yeah that only means that Minda exists. She could be an NPC or someone else.
Fania2009-02-19 07:12:08
I'm headed for bed. It will be at least another 9 hours before I can hop back on. I'm sure all the action will happen while I'm gone, oh well.
Unknown2009-02-19 07:13:31
Just caught up with all the posts.

Perhaps Kiriwe is only pretending to be Midna, since the chances of someone being a character outside the roster? Maybe she just saw Midna mentioned, so she was like, yeah!
Not sure how much chance would be for characters outside roster to be not NPCs since there are those on the roster (dedede, Olimar) who WERE npcs?

There are more than 25 characters on roster right?
Shaddus2009-02-19 12:13:15
QUOTE (Tekora @ Feb 19 2009, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn, this makes me wish that Shaddus had saved his day-kill.

suspicious.gif

UNVOTE
Llandros2009-02-19 13:04:46
Didn't noola say that fruit added a stackable chance to resist kills?

That's probably why Dag didn't go into what it did since it was already covered.
Unknown2009-02-19 13:07:40
QUOTE (Llandros @ Feb 19 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't noola say that fruit added a stackable chance to resist kills?

That's probably why Dag didn't go into what it did since it was already covered.

Possibly, but 'Maxim Tomato' seems different from just 'apple'.
Noola2009-02-19 13:46:30
I was told 'food' not just fruit. But yeah, the 'Maxim' in front of it makes me wonder if it's special or something.
Shiri2009-02-19 14:02:23
It is. A maxim fruit is a max health tomato-y thing from Kirby, and adds much more health than a normal food item.
Tekora2009-02-19 14:04:57
It cures 100% damage if I recall. (That's 100 points worth, not a full heal. Only Heart Containers heal fully.)
Unknown2009-02-19 14:07:00
Okay, wow, lots of pages while I was asleep.

First, Maxim Tomatos, in the game, were super heals, far more than any normal food. Most competitive players actually disable them in matches because of how much of an effect they have. I'm guessing possible lynch or kill immunity for a day from it.

Also, I'm just going to say that this whole "oh, too many roleclaims!" is stupid, honestly. Last game we had a ton of roleclaims, and it actually helped us--we actually knew who all the scum were, but the mechanics kept us from being able to kill them. Roleclaims aren't always bad, especially when you have a ton of investigators and roleblockers running around. Now, in normal mafia it's different, but in lusternian super-powered mafia, they're a solid tactic.

Really, atm, the only person I find really suspicious is Tekora, because he's talking about Daganev possibly being over zealous while he's telling people to shut up and just go along with his train. That's rude, aggressive, and definitely not pro-town to be in such a rush to get to night before we can get as much info as we can. So,

FOS: Tekora