Super Smash Bros Brawl Mafia

by Kiradawea

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Llandros2009-02-19 17:15:59
After reding over things more and Dag putting himself up for a lynch tomorrow if Harkux isn't scum I'm going to go ahead and change my vote.
Unvote

Vote Harkux
Fania2009-02-19 17:16:27
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still don't understand how any and every mistake is a noob scum tell.


It has nothing to do with that. It wasn't a mistake when Harkux wanted to kill Dai, because
Dai had a rival. Harkux was getting rid of any rival that was in his way.

I'm sorry, is Harkux a guy or a girl (not talking about character here)? I think I've heard both ways now. I don't want to offend, but sometimes it's hard to tell just looking at the names.
Fania2009-02-19 17:26:26
Either way tomorrow we'll most likely know what side Dag is on. Someone is likely to check him out at night (doesn't mean we'll know his character, though).
Oh, I totally agree with Dag about not revealing items. I just don't really think I'll use my item, so I didn't think there was much harm in telling people I had it in case someone wanted to trade. Steeling this item from me wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Even if someone used it on me it's not really much of a loss, because if I used it you would know if I'm on the side of the person who used it on me. If I really need to use it later I will.
kiriwe2009-02-19 17:31:29
Harkux is a girl. Both character and player.

@ Fania I don't understand how wanting to vote for somebody with a rival is necessarily a bad thing. At this point, the rebels group is still town, but from Ganondorf's role, it seems that rivals can hinder their "opponent" (I'm using that term loosely). I at first thought Dai might be one of the rebel-rivals, not thinking that a town with a rival would out himself that openly

I don't like this whole "vote for me tomorrow if Harkux isn't scum" thing. Because who knows what will happen between this night and the next day? I say if Daganev is wrong about Harkux, then whoever has a daykill should use it on him at that point, if Harkux isn't scum and we end up lynching her today, so we can learn more from his role, and still have a lynch left.

Still, I feel Daganev is behaving much more scummy than Harkux is.

Fania2009-02-19 17:44:21
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Harkux is a girl. Both character and player.

@ Fania I don't understand how wanting to vote for somebody with a rival is necessarily a bad thing. At this point, the rebels group is still town, but from Ganondorf's role, it seems that rivals can hinder their "opponent" (I'm using that term loosely). I at first thought Dai might be one of the rebel-rivals, not thinking that a town with a rival would out himself that openly

I don't like this whole "vote for me tomorrow if Harkux isn't scum" thing. Because who knows what will happen between this night and the next day? I say if Daganev is wrong about Harkux, then whoever has a daykill should use it on him at that point, if Harkux isn't scum and we end up lynching her today, so we can learn more from his role, and still have a lynch left.

Still, I feel Daganev is behaving much more scummy than Harkux is.


It's not a bad thing to vote for someone who has a rival, it just makes her more likely to be someone who is against the Big Four. Although...Ganondorf was a rebel is did distinctly say that he was not one of the ones trying to destroy the tournament. So even if Harkux is Wario that doesn't mean she's scum. I would like to hear from Harkux then. I don't know if we do have enough information to know for sure if anyone is scum we just have to go with instinct for now.
Fania2009-02-19 17:45:11
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Harkux is a girl. Both character and player.


I didn't mean her player I meant her character in this game, which we wont know until we know her character.
Unknown2009-02-19 17:46:52
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 19 2009, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think you understand what Furien said. Furien claimed that the Mod made a typo, not that furien made a typo. (however his timeline for said typo still doesn't make sense. I suggest you go back and read all of furien's posts. That said, I do belive that Furien just completely got confused as to what everything was, but lieing about it just made it seem more suspicious. Because I caught him in his lie. (which he admited to making))


...I was making a funny. You know. Joke? Ha ha? Yeesh, overreaction.

QUOTE
And no you are not remembering correctly. I told Dai he was being an idiot for revealing info about his powers, and not revealing his name. Because whomever his rival is, would allready know his name by the simple fact that he stated he has a rival. Dai also only had 3 votes on himself. That isn't much of a train.
I think it's already been established that rivals are not a single pairing in this game? This logic you are giving simply doesn't fly.
Fania2009-02-19 17:55:46
I wonder if it would do any good for me to use my Team Healer at this point. I think it's a tough item to use. If I use it on Dag or Harkux it will just reveal if they are on my team, which may incriminate me either way. Those that think that these two are good might vote against me because they think I'm scum then. If they think they are scum I will appear to be on their side and then probably get lynched in the future for that too. Either way it will only help me know which way to vote for them on this round only, and the information will be used against and for me in the next round (this would be the same for no matter who used it). Maybe I'll just throw it at myself then I'll both have used it, and know that I'm on my own side. tongue.gif

Daganev2009-02-19 18:25:03
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder if it would do any good for me to use my Team Healer at this point. I think it's a tough item to use. If I use it on Dag or Harkux it will just reveal if they are on my team, which may incriminate me either way. Those that think that these two are good might vote against me because they think I'm scum then. If they think they are scum I will appear to be on their side and then probably get lynched in the future for that too. Either way it will only help me know which way to vote for them on this round only, and the information will be used against and for me in the next round (this would be the same for no matter who used it). Maybe I'll just throw it at myself then I'll both have used it, and know that I'm on my own side. tongue.gif


That isn't a bad idea.

Use it on me, shiri, and Harkux. (assuming you are pro loyalist) How many targets can you use? Also use it on furien.
Fania2009-02-19 18:34:25
I guess we are at a stalemate right now, so Throw Teamhealer at daganev. Yes this may be a newbie mistake, but I want day 1 over with. I can't take another 24 pages of this! heh heh Oh, if I can use this more than once, please let me know.
Unknown2009-02-19 18:35:11
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder if it would do any good for me to use my Team Healer at this point. I think it's a tough item to use. If I use it on Dag or Harkux it will just reveal if they are on my team, which may incriminate me either way. Those that think that these two are good might vote against me because they think I'm scum then. If they think they are scum I will appear to be on their side and then probably get lynched in the future for that too. Either way it will only help me know which way to vote for them on this round only, and the information will be used against and for me in the next round (this would be the same for no matter who used it). Maybe I'll just throw it at myself then I'll both have used it, and know that I'm on my own side. tongue.gif


I think you should use it on Harkux. So long as you're allied with the Big 4, you should be fine. And I'm sure someone will investigate her anyway, which would, in turn, then clear you both with a single investigation, which would be very good for the town as a whole. And then, if it clears Harkux, we can easily see where Dag goes from there.

As long as we're getting new info, then the day isn't stagnating and it's not a bad thing to not be lynching someone.
Fania2009-02-19 18:35:12
That was probably supposed to be bolded so here: Throw Teamhealer at daganev
Daganev2009-02-19 18:35:41
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 18 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright, so we have 3 major suspects for now: Daganev, Harkux and Kiriwe.

Daganev:
1. Claims to have been role-blocked by two people.
2. FOS at Narsrim for revealing what his Poisonous Mushroom did, but has yet to have reveal what his own Maxim Tomato does.
3. Laid a trap using Dai, then claims Harkux falls into his trap. However, his trap caused Dai into a dangerous roleclaim. In addition, Harkux jumped on the vote bandwagon BEFORE Dai claimed. Daganev only revealed that he was using Dai as a bait AFTER Dai roleclaimed.

Setting the trap:

Harkux falling into it:

Daganev still posting and pressuring Dai even though Harkux has fallen into his trap:

Dai being pressured into revealing role:

Then Daganev finally reveals that he has laid a trap:


4. FOS at Furien for typo (may or may not be truth), after setting his trap, and not revealing his victim until after arguing with Furien a lot.

Coming up next, my thoughts on Harkux and Kiriwe.



What I want to know is why you didn't quote these posts I made:

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 18 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are certain that your rival does not gain anything from killing you directly? Because my basic argument is that you are going to die tonight one way or another. Might as well reduce the loss as much as possible.

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 18 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why don't you think over your role carefully. Figure out if there isn't anything your rival probabbly doesn't allready know, and let us know what you can tell us without giving away more info to your rival?

for example, if say you had something in your description that read "Your rival doesn't know this, but you can do X" Then don't tell us about X. But otherwise you might as well tell us who you are at this point.

QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 18 2009, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scream.gif wtf.gif scream.gif

Ok... So instead of telling us your anti rival ability (so we could help you maybe figure out whats going on), you give us your super cool abilty, which makes you a big giant target!



I think those 3 quotes completely nullify your "trying to get Dai to roleclaim" reasoning.

QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 18 2009, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Harkux:
1. Posting very little
2. Jumping on bandwagons
3. Following Daganev's logic

Did I miss anything else for Harkux?


Yes, you missunder stood point 3. It has nothing to do with "following" my logic. It has to do with the fact that she didn't state her own logic.



Daganev2009-02-19 18:37:15
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was probably supposed to be bolded so here: Throw Teamhealer at daganev


gah! I thought you are supposed to throw it at multiple people?
Unknown2009-02-19 18:37:20
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was probably supposed to be bolded so here: Throw Teamhealer at daganev


Gah. I really wish you hadn't of been so hasty. Impatience is not a good trait in mafia.
Fania2009-02-19 18:37:49
Contrary to my vote...I'd rather see if Daganev is good/evil first.
Unknown2009-02-19 18:39:02
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Contrary to my vote...I'd rather see if Daganev is good/evil first.


Except that we would have gained more from seeing if Hark was good or evil. Dag is active, we have plenty of opportunity to figure him out--getting info on a lurker is much more valuable.
Fania2009-02-19 18:39:50
It said "You can Throw Teamhealer at (person)" If it was supposed to be people then it's Kiradawea's mistake and not mine. I don't think it was a mistake, though.
Daganev2009-02-19 18:45:50
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 19 2009, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It said "You can Throw Teamhealer at (person)" If it was supposed to be people then it's Kiradawea's mistake and not mine. I don't think it was a mistake, though.


oh ok. So basically anyone on my team will get "healed"?
Tekora2009-02-19 18:47:36
Just chiming in that if the Team Healer shows that Fania is on a different team than Daganev, that I will be immediately calling for her to be lynched.