Yeah, and what Casilu said.

Just because Midna is in the flavour text doesn't make her innocent... since she wasn't even in SSBB, afaik. Vote: Kiriwe

Oh you read the mafia wiki?

It's not wishy-washy at all because I had pretty substantive reasoning behind both my votes and unvotes, either stated with the votes or stated previously.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.

I'm headed to bed as well.

Just because you are the doctor it doesn't make you innocent either.

... yes, it does. Assuming she isn't lying, which I wouldn't rule out.

Oh, please, like I had to read the wiki to know you were wonky with your voting.

I know generally it does, but I'm sure it would be quite a twist to keep people guessing if a doctor was also a scum. And yes Rika could be lying. I don't get everyone saying that she's innocent when all we have is her word. When did we start taking everyone's word at face value?

We'll know tomorrow when the investigator(s) shows that I am indeed a doctor.

Maybe the investigators should be a little more clear on who they should investigate. It would save time so people don't investigate Ness when they obviously should be investigating Rika.

How many votes are on Kiriwe? I'm willing to vote Kiriwe, still don't trust her after all this. She could have just a protect myself ability, Furien didn't see her 'hiding in twilight', just protected.

Like... 3? Shiri, Archer, me.

VOTE KIRIWE

Twice she said something along the lines of, "oh if you want me to do a full roleclaim I will."

Then when she does it, her roleclaim is still... not a full one. "oh I'm just hiding this ability, don't want to reveal it". Sounds to me like, she's trying to reveal as little as possible in case something sounds false. Why hide a 'night action-immune' ability?

Shamarah at least should be on her too...I think there's more. Eh.

Oh, missed that one. Five, then. We need eleven, I think.

Hooold on there, guys. We're all forgetting something. You guys seem to have come to the conclusion that Renthur is not scum (which we can check if anyone gets a Maxim tomato later, or someone can investigate tonight), however.. since he admitted to killing Dai, then that means our scum was blocked.

So, doesn't that mean our blockers should come forward and say who they blocked? And then we lynch one of the targets of blocking rather than this crazy lynch the confirmed power person for no reason schtick?

Maybe. But we have two roleblockers and possibly a doctor. And several people (me, Casilu (?) and Furien, for starters, and ostensibly Kiriwe) with kill protection of some kind. Oh yeah, and Tekora. That's like 9+ ways it could have gone wrong for them, and only 2 are roleblockers. Right? They probably wouldn't be dumb enough to target me after I went into my cardboard box, and Furien claims they didn't hit his heart whatever Harkux gave him (although we still shouldn't forget that's kind of iffy on its own), but there's still multiple options out there that don't involve roleblocking.

That said, if the roleblockers think it's worth the risk of claiming, it'd be fine to get the info out here just in case. But otherwise, Kiriwe still seems like a good target.

My problem is that since Rika got a message basically saying her doctor-ing wasn't used, that whoever got targetted and protected themselves would have got some sort of notice. Kira seems to like giving people flavor in regards to what's happening to them at night, so I'm pretty sure we should assume a failed kill attempt would produce some sort of message regarding it.

I mean, we can wait until Kira shows up and we can:
1) Ask her if a failed kill attempt would have resulted in some sort of message.
2) Wait to see if anyone gets a Team Healer.

I just really don't get the kiriwe-hate right now when me might actually have something real to go on if we just show a bit of patience.

I hereby demand people use full names. Having read through posts three times now, I finally noticed that my confusion stemmed from Kira != Kiriwe. I'm also confused as to whether or not a failed kill attempt would generate a message. I can't think of why it wouldn't all crazy flavor text considered.