Fania2009-02-22 07:43:12
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 21 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because...I have no particular reason to believe either way other than the fact that there's 3 of the big 4 left and more than 6 unaccounted for?
Then trust me on it.
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 21 2009, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was both kills. If it had been analysed, Shaddus would have said so instead of saying it was a mistake and that he was sorry...
Because, if you are a good guy, you tell people everything?
Shiri2009-02-22 07:46:52
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 22 2009, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then trust me on it.
Alright, but I can't see who it benefits not to tell.
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Because, if you are a good guy, you tell people everything?
Clearly you don't, but if you're being voted on for murder and attempted murder of two probably-townies, yes you would reveal the already-suspicious fact that you just raised the investigator counter to like six.
Shiri2009-02-22 07:47:04
Excuse me, seven if you count that team healer thing.
Fania2009-02-22 07:51:36
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 21 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright, but I can't see who it benefits not to tell.
The Big Four?
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 21 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clearly you don't, but if you're being voted on for murder and attempted murder of two probably-townies, yes you would reveal the already-suspicious fact that you just raised the investigator counter to like six.
That many? Really? Kira must really like the investigator thing. I don't blame her. It's all ninja like, and who doesn't like ninja's?
Shiri2009-02-22 07:55:33
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 22 2009, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Big Four?
...huuuh?
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That many? Really? Kira must really like the investigator thing. I don't blame her. It's all ninja like, and who doesn't like ninja's?
Well, they're all kind of limited, but yes it is a lot. If you believe everyone:
Daganev: "alignment arrow" that doesn't kill townies?
Furien: his day investigate thing
Me: my codec + espionage deal
Noola: gets names
Dai: could apparently track what peopel did at night?
Shaddus: according to you
Team healer: "confirmed" you by virtue of Daganev being "confirmed" due to lynching Harkux (could have been a gambit, but unlikely at best)
Rika2009-02-22 08:00:15
Well, if it helps, I have no investigation abilities of any sort.
Fania2009-02-22 08:03:49
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 21 2009, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...huuuh?
Shaddus: according to you
Shaddus: according to you
I thought the idea is we wanted to protect the big four?
I didn't mean that he does have the ability, just meant to imply that he could have the ability, and that's why he killed Doman. If you've ever played the new Metroid games you'd know that a huge part of the game is analyzing things.
Shiri2009-02-22 08:06:52
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 22 2009, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the idea is we wanted to protect the big four?
It's true - that doesn't seem to have any connection to what you said though...
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I didn't mean that he does have the ability, just meant to imply that he could have the ability, and that's why he killed Doman. If you've ever played the new Metroid games you'd know that a huge part of the game is analyzing things.
Maybe so, but I'm not buying that he has one (on top of all the others already in the game) AND refused to say it when pressed for why he SKed/vigged someone...especially with another vig/SK, which isn't out of the question but makes it even more unlikely that both are legit.
Fania2009-02-22 08:28:18
He is a loose cannon.
Furien2009-02-22 08:38:56
She's saying that people shouldn't be revealing everything they know because it might endanger the Big 4 (IE: Revealing who they are), I think.
Well, where do we want to go from this? We could lynch Shaddus and get another round of night-work done, I don't care either way. Lots of people to still look into.
Well, where do we want to go from this? We could lynch Shaddus and get another round of night-work done, I don't care either way. Lots of people to still look into.
Fania2009-02-22 08:50:51
I'm just making sure I'm keeping up with the Jones out there. The ones that are bolded are the characters that have been outed, or otherwise agreed upon.
01: Casilu BOWSER
02: Renthur WOLF
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros NESS
05: Kiriwe Minda
07: Rika (doctor)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola
10: Tekora Pichu
11: Daganev Kid Icarus
13: Diamondais
15: Fania
16: Shamarah LYN
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus SAMMUS
19: Shiri SOLID SNAKE
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien ZELDA/SHEIK
24: Solanis
I'm just going with a "General Consensus" list here. Do I have everything right, or am I missing someone? Hopefully this will help to see who is left to investigate.
01: Casilu BOWSER
02: Renthur WOLF
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros NESS
05: Kiriwe Minda
07: Rika (doctor)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola
10: Tekora Pichu
11: Daganev Kid Icarus
13: Diamondais
15: Fania
16: Shamarah LYN
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus SAMMUS
19: Shiri SOLID SNAKE
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien ZELDA/SHEIK
24: Solanis
I'm just going with a "General Consensus" list here. Do I have everything right, or am I missing someone? Hopefully this will help to see who is left to investigate.
Daganev2009-02-22 09:19:00
I believe we have more info on Solanis but I can't remember. Just got back from my DnD game.
I don't think Shaddus is scummy. He has been playing poorly, but not scummy.
I don't think Shaddus is scummy. He has been playing poorly, but not scummy.
Daganev2009-02-22 09:22:23
what exactly is scummy about Shaddus trying to kill the person who killed Kirby?
Something seems off about Shiri's logic this game so far.
Something seems off about Shiri's logic this game so far.
Shiri2009-02-22 09:25:00
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what exactly is scummy about Shaddus trying to kill the person who killed Kirby?
Something seems off about Shiri's logic this game so far.
Something seems off about Shiri's logic this game so far.
The part where it's scummy is that it's the 2nd time he tried to kill someone without letting them roleclaim or in fact reply. And I don't think it was clear that he killed anyone at the time...he was just a likely candidate due to having a sword.
Fania: you missed Noola having an investigate, and I think we know something about Archer2 as well.
Fania2009-02-22 09:42:29
I don't miss anything! I'm just tired! I'm going to talk like this from now on! So there!
I would like to know the specifics! I think I thought I knew who Archer2 were, but I think it's the tiredness taking over!
Goodnight All!
I would like to know the specifics! I think I thought I knew who Archer2 were, but I think it's the tiredness taking over!
Goodnight All!
Shiri2009-02-22 09:45:00
Yeah, I lost track of Archer too honestly
Unknown2009-02-22 11:47:44
I think Kira is an evil mod. I got the smashball, and wanted to see the daily event she promised. Then she sets Mew on me.
My Final Smash gives me Daykill and Nightkill immunity for this day and the next night. I activated it, so I'm safe from the song.
Give me a moment to digest it all, although I think most of you are sleeping?
My Final Smash gives me Daykill and Nightkill immunity for this day and the next night. I activated it, so I'm safe from the song.
Give me a moment to digest it all, although I think most of you are sleeping?
Unknown2009-02-22 14:10:25
Well, I read through the thread. So far, those who have done suspicious actions are:
Shamarah - for killing a Big Four
Shaddus - for daykilling two people before they can roleclaim
Rika - for the doctor claim
However, I'm mostly convinced by their explanations. Shamarah has volunteered his dayvig to be used with the consent of town, so that is one useful ability for us to use. Shaddus explained that his first kill was due to influence from previous game. However, he has yet to have explained his second one. Rika genuinely sounded tired, when she did that mistake with Daganev. Hence, I shall wait, seeing as how voting for Daganev made it look like I was scum.
To clarify on the Daganev issue, it was mostly a timezone issue. When I was logged in and posting, Daganev was not, hence he could not explain/refute my points, so it sounded like I was adamantly against him. However, when he got up and refuted them, I didn't get a chance to agree and unvote before Harkux got lynched.
And please don't tell me Harkux was a trap in a trap, and that me agreeing with your logic about Harkux about agreeing with your logic about Dai makes me scum as well. O_O
Shamarah - for killing a Big Four
Shaddus - for daykilling two people before they can roleclaim
Rika - for the doctor claim
However, I'm mostly convinced by their explanations. Shamarah has volunteered his dayvig to be used with the consent of town, so that is one useful ability for us to use. Shaddus explained that his first kill was due to influence from previous game. However, he has yet to have explained his second one. Rika genuinely sounded tired, when she did that mistake with Daganev. Hence, I shall wait, seeing as how voting for Daganev made it look like I was scum.
To clarify on the Daganev issue, it was mostly a timezone issue. When I was logged in and posting, Daganev was not, hence he could not explain/refute my points, so it sounded like I was adamantly against him. However, when he got up and refuted them, I didn't get a chance to agree and unvote before Harkux got lynched.
And please don't tell me Harkux was a trap in a trap, and that me agreeing with your logic about Harkux about agreeing with your logic about Dai makes me scum as well. O_O
Unknown2009-02-22 14:19:28
Also, I looked through Archer2's posts. He didn't reveal anything.
Unknown2009-02-22 14:26:20
QUOTE (diamondais @ Feb 22 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only time I was "clueless" was during the first day when there was lots of information to absorb and I wasn't signing on too much through the day. I've been trying my best to keep up with the information flow, and this day has been a lot easier to handle than the last, and then offer any answers to questions that have either been directed at my way or are just about the game and I notice and no one else has answered yet.
I think someone asked me what I got from the sandbag, it's not really useful for me considering I don't have any night actions that can be targetted against another player. It's a power ring, supposed to bypass doctor protection. Though I guess it's kinda useful, if I try and protect myself at night I have a chance of nullifying a roleblock, I'll lose the item if it does.
I think someone asked me what I got from the sandbag, it's not really useful for me considering I don't have any night actions that can be targetted against another player. It's a power ring, supposed to bypass doctor protection. Though I guess it's kinda useful, if I try and protect myself at night I have a chance of nullifying a roleblock, I'll lose the item if it does.
Dia, what can you give us a bit more than that? I just really need something from you in order to move my vote.
I won't ask for your role, but what sort of powers do you have? Like, as general and non-harmless to yourself as possible. And did you use them last night? Did they have any result? Do you have any info that might help us at all?