I'm going to smash sandbag

I'm also going to inform everyone that there are two roleblockers.

I'm also curious as to why Narsrim would mention the weakness he got from the mushroom. It didn't add anything to the town's knowledge. Infact I think he is trying to hard to sound like town.

vote narsrim

Do you know who the roleblockers are?

SMASH SANDBAG A lot happens while school is going on. I don't have much useful input at the moment except maybe the rebels group is the scrum, Rebels could come from against the Big Four and such.

I thought the Smashball had been destroyed a while ago, and therefore we can't smash anything anymore, or am I mistaken?

If I can still do it I'm going to Smash Sandbag.

I'm going to hold onto my vote for a bit longer, because I want to hear from more people first.

I'm curious to what some of the items do. How do we use them, or do we hold on to them the next day, and get informed of their uses at night?

I'm mildly interested in what Narsrim isn't telling us. Honestly, though, there is a lot that we aren't telling each other.

I don't think rebels is scum, from the fact that Ganondorf didn't have any killing powers, nor could he talk to anybody else, and he could win with scum.

Unless there are those that only win with scum that we haven't unearthed yet. *chin*

???

Ganondorf had a 50% chance to kill, and 50% chance to knock out every night if he wanted to. The rebels are most definitly a scum group IF the big 4 die.

and who was it that suggested that the rebels are rebelling against the people trying to kill the big 4? That is just some backwards logic. and a big fos to whomever suggested it.

If the big 4 die, we basically will have Rebels vs loyalists (loyal to the big 4), with a possible neutral Kid party.

oops, forgot about his power :/

are the "loyalists" a recognized group? Because my win condition doesn't mention it... and I would be considered a "loyalist" if there was such a thing.

My point about him not being able to talk at Night still stands, though. I thought that scum can talk to scum.

I can confirm that the loyalists are a recognized group.

Actually, I think it works like this:

Big 4 v Scum
If Big 4 go down, it splits into Scum v Rebels v Loyalists. The Loyalists probably have a leader, maybe Luigi?
If the Loyalist leader is killed, it will split into Scum vs Rebels vs Femme vs Kids vs Something Adult Male (because Kids and Femme and Rebels don't cover everyone).

The reason it seems that way, is because Lucas could win with the Loyalists and then the Kids, and Furien can win with the Loyalits and then the Femmes.

So, basically, if the Big 4 go down, it turns into a real giant mess.

bizarre. I guess I don't know my role that well, should research it more

Um.. so.. you're a character not on the Brawl Roster.. and you don't win with the Loyalists?

Anyone else besides me think she needs to claim?

I don't think she's scum, because that would be terribly bad play if she was.. but if there's a whole other group out there, I think we need to know about it.

Wouldn't these people be scum even if the big 4 don't die? Basically they seem to be there to take down the big 4 and take over the ruling class.

I think that's almost right, but think it might be

Scum vs. Everybody
if big 4 go down, rebels become scum, and then it's all the respective groups vs. scum.

I say this because my win condition says I can win with two groups at once, not either/or/then

Renthur hits Sandbag. Something pops up, but Renthur scoops it up before anyone else can see what it is.

Fania does a cartwheel kick against sandbag, and out pops a Team Healer.

Sandbag looks around, then hops of. He's taken enough of a beating.

Just caught up to everything, don't have anything else to add to what's already been said.

No, because Ganon was able to win with the Big 4.

Am I the only one who finds it odd that Daganev so casually mentioned that there are two roleblockers?

This is very similar to my win condition. I win with the big 4, but if they go under I win with one of two other groups. However, I don't read it as I win if both of them win, but rather if either of them win.

No, that is weird.