Diamondais2009-02-22 22:21:11
QUOTE (S.A.W. @ Feb 22 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, since I do technically owe Dag my vote right now, due to our bet, I guess I need to put my vote back on diamondais.
Vote: diamondais
diamondais, you have no idea what you were hit with last night? Nothing that can help us out here?
Vote: diamondais
diamondais, you have no idea what you were hit with last night? Nothing that can help us out here?
None, sorry. Just that something tried to hit me and I blocked it.
Casilu2009-02-22 22:22:30
Well, no mention of the beasts that a forum search could find.
Actually, Dag, I just searched through the board for all mention of the words beast and beasts, to make sure I didn't miss any. That was the first result for either.
Actually, Dag, I just searched through the board for all mention of the words beast and beasts, to make sure I didn't miss any. That was the first result for either.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:24:05
QUOTE (Archer2 @ Feb 18 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holy crap. People have revealed so much valuable information on Day 1 it's ridiculous. It's like a banquet for the scum to choose who to kill at night. Kiriwe's claim suggests that the roster isn't limited to Brawl characters, but it isn't really proven. I also win with the Big Four, but I can also confirm the existence of The Beasts.
How I'm seeing the game structure is that we all try to protect the Big Four, except for their rivals and Crazy Hand (perhaps Right and Left). If the Big Four "collapses" (possibly two of them getting killed/subverted) then it becomes a free-for-all between the different factions and Crazy Hand to get the majority.
Right now, I agree with Dag's argument and I'm going to Vote: Furien, it's possible she knew the name of Zelda's Smash Attack (lolwikipedia) and simply reasoned that that would be the obvious other choice.
I'm also getting a scummy vibe from Kiriwe and S.A.W (a bit weak though and no real reason.)
How I'm seeing the game structure is that we all try to protect the Big Four, except for their rivals and Crazy Hand (perhaps Right and Left). If the Big Four "collapses" (possibly two of them getting killed/subverted) then it becomes a free-for-all between the different factions and Crazy Hand to get the majority.
Right now, I agree with Dag's argument and I'm going to Vote: Furien, it's possible she knew the name of Zelda's Smash Attack (lolwikipedia) and simply reasoned that that would be the obvious other choice.
I'm also getting a scummy vibe from Kiriwe and S.A.W (a bit weak though and no real reason.)
This is Archer2's post implieing he is a beast.
I think Furien might have edited his post to list beasts, because of the way the conversation happened.
Casilu2009-02-22 22:24:09
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In that post Dai has allready clamed fox, which means he had claimed beast as well.
Furien also claims to win with Femme.
Furien also claims to win with Femme.
Oh, and since we're talking about Dai.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:24:58
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 22 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, no mention of the beasts that a forum search could find.
Actually, Dag, I just searched through the board for all mention of the words beast and beasts, to make sure I didn't miss any. That was the first result for either.
Actually, Dag, I just searched through the board for all mention of the words beast and beasts, to make sure I didn't miss any. That was the first result for either.
I noticed that too. however the very next post is Kiri saying "you misssed a group"
Fania2009-02-22 22:25:46
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Allright, I have an idea.
To be honest, I'm currently very distrusting of too many people. After my spot on reading of Harkux, I've been pulling up blanks on others. And the people I find most supsicious at the moment appear to have the most support of being "confirmed"
I think we should go another night and see what happens, which would almost make me want to do a no lynch. However, a no lynch doesn't really help us, and so I'm thinking about the following. I have 3 "ideas", and I'm happy to go with any of them. I'll put them in no particular order.
1. Lynch Kiriwe. This will give us information about the "not a playable characher being scum" theory. Kiri announced that she doesn't have skills that can help the town, and it will help us with info about Shamarah, which might inturn give us more info about Shiri. However, it will not help us with Caeurlo or Rika or whomever, and we will be relying on the investigations at night to get that info.
2. Lynch Caerulo. We don't know anything about Caerulo, and what we were going to find out, is now gone. Caerulo's explanation of just being at a bad timezome from me is most likely true, but we don't know much else about Caerulo.
3. Lynch Diamondais, for reasons explained above. Just not getting a good vibe.
Lastly, I think I know who a few of the big 4 are at this point, and that likely means that the scum do as well. So if you have suspicions on who some big 4 members are, see if you can protect them.
To be honest, I'm currently very distrusting of too many people. After my spot on reading of Harkux, I've been pulling up blanks on others. And the people I find most supsicious at the moment appear to have the most support of being "confirmed"
I think we should go another night and see what happens, which would almost make me want to do a no lynch. However, a no lynch doesn't really help us, and so I'm thinking about the following. I have 3 "ideas", and I'm happy to go with any of them. I'll put them in no particular order.
1. Lynch Kiriwe. This will give us information about the "not a playable characher being scum" theory. Kiri announced that she doesn't have skills that can help the town, and it will help us with info about Shamarah, which might inturn give us more info about Shiri. However, it will not help us with Caeurlo or Rika or whomever, and we will be relying on the investigations at night to get that info.
2. Lynch Caerulo. We don't know anything about Caerulo, and what we were going to find out, is now gone. Caerulo's explanation of just being at a bad timezome from me is most likely true, but we don't know much else about Caerulo.
3. Lynch Diamondais, for reasons explained above. Just not getting a good vibe.
Lastly, I think I know who a few of the big 4 are at this point, and that likely means that the scum do as well. So if you have suspicions on who some big 4 members are, see if you can protect them.
Go with option 1 or 3. Going with 2 will be a bad idea.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:26:14
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 22 2009, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
right my mistake there. If you actually look at when Dai died, you will see that even though he is a "fox" he isn't one of the beasts.
Casilu2009-02-22 22:26:28
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is Archer2's post implieing he is a beast.
I think Furien might have edited his post to list beasts, because of the way the conversation happened.
I think Furien might have edited his post to list beasts, because of the way the conversation happened.
That may be right, but there is a two hour difference between the posts and about three pages between them. The time difference means Furien does post that first.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:28:28
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 22 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go with option 1 or 3. Going with 2 will be a bad idea.
I think its best we go with option 1. If diamondais is telling the truth, the odds of her being scum are low. However, we know all the info about Kiri and Kiri has told us that it is safe to kill her. This will help us confirm Shamarah and Shiri.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:30:53
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 22 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That may be right, but there is a two hour difference between the posts and about three pages between them. The time difference means Furien does post that first.
http://forums.lusternia.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry618935
It's 3 minutes between when Furien lists beasts, and Kiri says: " there's another group
"the Beasts" "
Fania2009-02-22 22:31:13
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think its best we go with option 1. If diamondais is telling the truth, the odds of her being scum are low. However, we know all the info about Kiri and Kiri has told us that it is safe to kill her. This will help us confirm Shamarah and Shiri.
If you feel strongly about this vote for it.
Casilu2009-02-22 22:31:53
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 22 2009, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://forums.lusternia.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry618935
It's 3 minutes between when Furien lists beasts, and Kiri says: " there's another group
"the Beasts" "
It's 3 minutes between when Furien lists beasts, and Kiri says: " there's another group
"the Beasts" "
I noticed that too, yes. I confirm 4 minutes after that. Still, I assume Furien has played enough of these games to know not to modify her post.
Unknown2009-02-22 22:33:57
Furien's original list did not list beasts. He definitely edited it.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:35:03
QUOTE (casilu @ Feb 22 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I noticed that too, yes. I confirm 4 minutes after that. Still, I assume Furien has played enough of these games to know not to modify her post.
But why would Kiri say "there is another group" it if was allready listed?
remember at this point Furien was all confused and making really stupid mistakes.
Fania, I'm not sure I feel strongly enough about it to start voting in that direction without more conversation.
kiriwe2009-02-22 22:37:07
Um, I don't know any other way to say this. Don't lynch me. I have 2 uses left of my self-protection, and I'm not ready to die yet.
Yes, my dying will confirm I'm town, but I'd rather not die just yet
Yes, my dying will confirm I'm town, but I'd rather not die just yet
Daganev2009-02-22 22:38:00
BTW, at this point in the game, somebody has defintily been deceptive about thier alignment. I say this because the numbers don't really add up. There are roughly 4 unkowns at this point, and we have roughly 5 unaccounted for roles.
kiriwe2009-02-22 22:38:03
And when I said that there were Beasts, Furien's post did not. That was definately an edit.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:39:34
I'm open for suggestions on a direction at this point. I need to go for now.
Fania2009-02-22 22:40:37
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Feb 19 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my list that I've compiled from going over the entire thread.
Please note that it is far from complete, it's just the people/things I see as important, and jumped out at me.
Arix = Lucas, trophy
Solanis = havent heard anything since over 24 hours ago
Doman = Ganondorf, dead
Shaddus = Samus, daykill, killed Doman
Furien = Zelda/Sheik, investigator, claims can confirm 1 of the Big 4
Shiri = Solid Snake, investigator
Casilu = Bowser, not rebel? comes back after being killed, hinted she's after Peach
Noola = loyalist, investigator, natural 50% nightkill immunity
Llandros = claims vanilla, can make somebody's vote count twice
Diamondais = rather quiet
Rika = kinda quiet, probably sleeping atm
Archer2 = Beast, rather quiet
Caerulo = rather quiet
Dai = Fox
S.A.W. = active
Fania = might be able to confirm roles outside of roster
Kiriwe = Midna, Beast, Femme
Confirmed Groups:
Big 4
Loyalists
Rebels
Femmes
Kids
Beasts
Please note that it is far from complete, it's just the people/things I see as important, and jumped out at me.
Arix = Lucas, trophy
Solanis = havent heard anything since over 24 hours ago
Doman = Ganondorf, dead
Shaddus = Samus, daykill, killed Doman
Furien = Zelda/Sheik, investigator, claims can confirm 1 of the Big 4
Shiri = Solid Snake, investigator
Casilu = Bowser, not rebel? comes back after being killed, hinted she's after Peach
Noola = loyalist, investigator, natural 50% nightkill immunity
Llandros = claims vanilla, can make somebody's vote count twice
Diamondais = rather quiet
Rika = kinda quiet, probably sleeping atm
Archer2 = Beast, rather quiet
Caerulo = rather quiet
Dai = Fox
S.A.W. = active
Fania = might be able to confirm roles outside of roster
Kiriwe = Midna, Beast, Femme
Confirmed Groups:
Big 4
Loyalists
Rebels
Femmes
Kids
Beasts
I think she's lying. I don't think you can be both a Beast and a Femme. It's a bit obscure. I think generally people are Femme, Beast, Scum, Kid. Loyalist and Rebel are a second option. So...yeah.
Daganev2009-02-22 22:42:55
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Feb 19 2009, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vote count.
Narsrim: 0
Daganev: 6 (Narsrim, Furien, Shiri, Caeurlo, Sadhyra, Harkux)
Tekora: 0
Furien: 0
Kiriwe: 1 (Shamarah)
Fania: 0
Harkux: 8 (Daganev, Tekora, Fania, Llandros alpha, Shaddus, Kiriwe, Kat&Ana)
Dai: 0
No lynch: 3 (A peaceful presence, a noble presence, a strong presence)
Narsrim: 0
Daganev: 6 (Narsrim, Furien, Shiri, Caeurlo, Sadhyra, Harkux)
Tekora: 0
Furien: 0
Kiriwe: 1 (Shamarah)
Fania: 0
Harkux: 8 (Daganev, Tekora, Fania, Llandros alpha, Shaddus, Kiriwe, Kat&Ana)
Dai: 0
No lynch: 3 (A peaceful presence, a noble presence, a strong presence)
Also, this post still bugs me.
