Fania2009-02-23 04:35:38
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Feb 22 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, I still think we should vote for Kiriwe if we can. She's a known factor.
Furthermore, this:
She then proceeds to use the protection under pressure. Now, she said that dying would show that she is town. Now, if she really had no other ability other than the Link and twilight protection, her dying would mean nothing to town. It would also reveal information about Shamarah and Shiri, as Daganev said.
I think she is stalling for night. I believe she has at least one night ability, and used her protection today so that she can have at least one last time to use it. After all, her twilight thing is limited, she cannot protect herself forever. I get the feeling that she is merely stalling for time. Don't forget, she tried to vote No Lynch on Day 1.
Furthermore, this:
She then proceeds to use the protection under pressure. Now, she said that dying would show that she is town. Now, if she really had no other ability other than the Link and twilight protection, her dying would mean nothing to town. It would also reveal information about Shamarah and Shiri, as Daganev said.
I think she is stalling for night. I believe she has at least one night ability, and used her protection today so that she can have at least one last time to use it. After all, her twilight thing is limited, she cannot protect herself forever. I get the feeling that she is merely stalling for time. Don't forget, she tried to vote No Lynch on Day 1.
She should probably be investigated by one of our investigators. Who else should be investigated. It might be useless to assign people, because of the role-blocking thing, unless two people investigated one person. That way there is a large chance they both wont die.
Shiri2009-02-23 04:40:55
Well...we do have multiple investigators, but Alianna's is day-based. I would rather have him use it tomorrow (he still has the heart container so he should survive tonight, whereas I might not) than potentially waste both Noola's time and mine, say.
Fania2009-02-23 04:53:51
QUOTE (Shiri @ Feb 22 2009, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well...we do have multiple investigators, but Alianna's is day-based. I would rather have him use it tomorrow (he still has the heart container so he should survive tonight, whereas I might not) than potentially waste both Noola's time and mine, say.
You mean you will probably be lynched or you expect a night killing? Why do you think this?
Shiri2009-02-23 04:59:41
QUOTE (Fania @ Feb 23 2009, 04:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean you will probably be lynched or you expect a night killing? Why do you think this?
It's not a case of expectation so much as possibility. Whichever of the daykillers is town might be targetted, or me, or Noola, or whatever. The only one almost guaranteed to survive the night is Furien.
Unknown2009-02-23 05:16:39
01: Casilu - BOWSER
02: Renthur - WOLF (CONFRONT FOX)
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros - NESS (DOUBLE-VOTER)
05: Kiriwe - Minda (Help Link | SELF-PROTECTION X3 - used up 2)
07: Rika (Doctor | Nightkill immunity X?)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola (Investigator - always names, % chance other stuff)
10: Tekora - Pichu (VOTEBLOCKER - two targets?)
11: Daganev - Kid Icarus (Nightkill - scum only, needs to be recharged)
13: Diamondais (Self-protection - night only, % chance to fail)
15: Fania
16: Shamarah - LYN (DAYKILL - 24 hours later | Lynch at half votes X2)
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus - SAMMUS (DAYKILL - 50% chance failure, nightkill revenge)
19: Shiri - SOLID SNAKE (Investigate - alignment only)
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien - ZELDA/SHEIK (Dayinvestigate X3 - used up 2)
24: Solanis - (Daydoctor)
Added more details.
02: Renthur - WOLF (CONFRONT FOX)
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros - NESS (DOUBLE-VOTER)
05: Kiriwe - Minda (Help Link | SELF-PROTECTION X3 - used up 2)
07: Rika (Doctor | Nightkill immunity X?)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola (Investigator - always names, % chance other stuff)
10: Tekora - Pichu (VOTEBLOCKER - two targets?)
11: Daganev - Kid Icarus (Nightkill - scum only, needs to be recharged)
13: Diamondais (Self-protection - night only, % chance to fail)
15: Fania
16: Shamarah - LYN (DAYKILL - 24 hours later | Lynch at half votes X2)
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus - SAMMUS (DAYKILL - 50% chance failure, nightkill revenge)
19: Shiri - SOLID SNAKE (Investigate - alignment only)
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien - ZELDA/SHEIK (Dayinvestigate X3 - used up 2)
24: Solanis - (Daydoctor)
Added more details.
Unknown2009-02-23 05:20:08
01: Casilu - BOWSER
02: Renthur - WOLF (CONFRONT FOX)
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros - NESS (DOUBLE-VOTER)
05: Kiriwe - Minda (Help Link | SELF-PROTECTION X3 - used up 2)
07: Rika (Doctor | Nightkill immunity X?)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola (Investigator - always names, % chance other stuff | 50% Nightkill protection)
10: Tekora - Pichu (VOTEBLOCKER - two targets?)
11: Daganev - Kid Icarus (Nightkill - scum only, needs to be recharged)
13: Diamondais (Self-protection - night only, % chance to fail)
15: Fania
16: Shamarah - LYN (DAYKILL - 24 hours later | Lynch at half votes X2)
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus - SAMMUS (DAYKILL - 50% chance failure | Nightkill revenge)
19: Shiri - SOLID SNAKE (Investigate - alignment only)
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien - ZELDA/SHEIK (Dayinvestigate X3 - used up 2 | Pheonix)
24: Solanis - (Daydoctor)
Forgot some more details.
02: Renthur - WOLF (CONFRONT FOX)
03: Sadhyra
04: Llandros - NESS (DOUBLE-VOTER)
05: Kiriwe - Minda (Help Link | SELF-PROTECTION X3 - used up 2)
07: Rika (Doctor | Nightkill immunity X?)
08: S.A.W.
09: Noola (Investigator - always names, % chance other stuff | 50% Nightkill protection)
10: Tekora - Pichu (VOTEBLOCKER - two targets?)
11: Daganev - Kid Icarus (Nightkill - scum only, needs to be recharged)
13: Diamondais (Self-protection - night only, % chance to fail)
15: Fania
16: Shamarah - LYN (DAYKILL - 24 hours later | Lynch at half votes X2)
17: Archer2
18: Shaddus - SAMMUS (DAYKILL - 50% chance failure | Nightkill revenge)
19: Shiri - SOLID SNAKE (Investigate - alignment only)
20: Caerulo
21: Silferras
22: Furien - ZELDA/SHEIK (Dayinvestigate X3 - used up 2 | Pheonix)
24: Solanis - (Daydoctor)
Forgot some more details.
Unknown2009-02-23 05:22:12
Geez, why does everyone get such great powers? All these kills, protections, hiding, spying - I'm overwhelmed and jealous. 
@ Daganev - I received absolutely nothing about the arrows. So either Kira forgot to PM me, the arrows completely dissipated because of my good alignment, or you were blocked. It's likely a combo of the first and second, but considering the potential of the third is useful.
I'll admit that I'm surprised you went along with shooting me, after claiming it, because more information and suspects cropped up after you said that - perhaps some baddie might have thought you were going to target them and blocked you accordingly. Did you point fingers at anyone towards the end of the day, after revealing that you had the arrows?
Shaddus has indeed, pardon the pun, jumped the gun a bit with his lasering, however he really can't get away with it for another round. I say give him the benefit of the doubt and simply warn him that another kill without the town's approval will get him lynched.
Tekora's absence makes me think it's likely that the pokemon trainer caught him. If this is the case, then I think it's a targetted attack, as we aren't seeing other people missing, and there has been talk about other pokemon roles.
@ Daganev - I received absolutely nothing about the arrows. So either Kira forgot to PM me, the arrows completely dissipated because of my good alignment, or you were blocked. It's likely a combo of the first and second, but considering the potential of the third is useful.
I'll admit that I'm surprised you went along with shooting me, after claiming it, because more information and suspects cropped up after you said that - perhaps some baddie might have thought you were going to target them and blocked you accordingly. Did you point fingers at anyone towards the end of the day, after revealing that you had the arrows?
Shaddus has indeed, pardon the pun, jumped the gun a bit with his lasering, however he really can't get away with it for another round. I say give him the benefit of the doubt and simply warn him that another kill without the town's approval will get him lynched.
Tekora's absence makes me think it's likely that the pokemon trainer caught him. If this is the case, then I think it's a targetted attack, as we aren't seeing other people missing, and there has been talk about other pokemon roles.
Fania2009-02-23 05:26:49
There is a pokemon trainer? That's kind of lame, unless it's an NPC. Is there a chance that Mewtwo got him instead?
Daganev2009-02-23 06:20:51
pokemon trainer is from the game, we don't know for certain it's existance in the mafia game. It's just speculation.
I think we need Kira to post a vote count so we can see if Shiri's vote against Kiri counts or not.
Sadhya, I'm 99% certain I was not roleblocked. The flavor text I got was pretty self explanatory. I'm guessing you didn't get any message to prevent the situation where you wake up and claim I'm scum cause you got shot at by a light arrow.
I think we need Kira to post a vote count so we can see if Shiri's vote against Kiri counts or not.
Sadhya, I'm 99% certain I was not roleblocked. The flavor text I got was pretty self explanatory. I'm guessing you didn't get any message to prevent the situation where you wake up and claim I'm scum cause you got shot at by a light arrow.
Shiri2009-02-23 06:22:25
I think Kira went to bed, now that I think of it...hrm. Well, anyway, we can get one later I guess.
Unknown2009-02-23 06:28:51
I'm updating the list with groupings and items. It will take quite a while though.
Unknown2009-02-23 06:54:08
A quick observation before I continue with my thread combing.
Is that inconsistency, or two abilities?
QUOTE (Furien @ Feb 19 2009, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God, this forum is SO SLOW today.
Yes, I'm Zelda/Sheik. I am NOT Link. I have no abilities that give me special interactions with anyone. I just have self-protection and investigation. Win conditions: Big 4 -> Rebels -> Femmes.
When I said 'something bad is coming', let me clarify: opening the smashball lets you pick from a DAILY EVENT or a special power that's specific to your character (IE: My Arrows of Light). You have until dusk to decide what to do. I chose the daily event and got DeDeDe killed, oops. I didn't know that was going to happen, the event is totally random, it was just a 'have to go to school, I selected X, glhf' post.
Also, calling me suspicious is just Doing It Wrong. I transformed into Sheik and stealthed around outside Shiri's room last night- found out he was Snake and that he had gone to do something during the night. Hence my asking.
Yes, I'm Zelda/Sheik. I am NOT Link. I have no abilities that give me special interactions with anyone. I just have self-protection and investigation. Win conditions: Big 4 -> Rebels -> Femmes.
When I said 'something bad is coming', let me clarify: opening the smashball lets you pick from a DAILY EVENT or a special power that's specific to your character (IE: My Arrows of Light). You have until dusk to decide what to do. I chose the daily event and got DeDeDe killed, oops. I didn't know that was going to happen, the event is totally random, it was just a 'have to go to school, I selected X, glhf' post.
Also, calling me suspicious is just Doing It Wrong. I transformed into Sheik and stealthed around outside Shiri's room last night- found out he was Snake and that he had gone to do something during the night. Hence my asking.
QUOTE (Furien @ Feb 22 2009, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, I'm awake. Here's a bit more elaboration:
When I transform during the day, I temporarily turn into Sheik and sneak off to investigate someone of my choice. The results that I get are very shaky. For example, on day 1, I found a Big 4 member. I did not, however, learn the actual character name- I had to do research based off his/her weapon that I found. I can do this three times total, once every day.
In this case, I got a name and some background. Concerning background. I did not get an alignment or any specific powers, I just learned that they're skilled with a certain weapon.
As for the Heart Container? Wait until the moment before we lynch someone, and I'll pass it to Caerulo.
When I transform during the day, I temporarily turn into Sheik and sneak off to investigate someone of my choice. The results that I get are very shaky. For example, on day 1, I found a Big 4 member. I did not, however, learn the actual character name- I had to do research based off his/her weapon that I found. I can do this three times total, once every day.
In this case, I got a name and some background. Concerning background. I did not get an alignment or any specific powers, I just learned that they're skilled with a certain weapon.
As for the Heart Container? Wait until the moment before we lynch someone, and I'll pass it to Caerulo.
Is that inconsistency, or two abilities?
Unknown2009-02-23 07:01:22
With further thoughts on the Furien thing:
I would find it strange that a role would have two investigative abilities, especially when both are 'transform'-based.
Even assuming he was careless and made a mistake with day/night, he claimed he investigated three person : Shiri on Night 0, which got us his role as Snake and investigator, a Big Four on Day 1, and Lyn on Day 2. Assuming that he made a typo again, that's three claimed investigates, when there have only been 2 days and 2 nights. There is a possibility that the Big Four claim is to protect himself from town in case something happens.
I would find it strange that a role would have two investigative abilities, especially when both are 'transform'-based.
Even assuming he was careless and made a mistake with day/night, he claimed he investigated three person : Shiri on Night 0, which got us his role as Snake and investigator, a Big Four on Day 1, and Lyn on Day 2. Assuming that he made a typo again, that's three claimed investigates, when there have only been 2 days and 2 nights. There is a possibility that the Big Four claim is to protect himself from town in case something happens.
Furien2009-02-23 07:06:36
I've been deliberately leaving out a part of my role because it could reveal my weakness to any attentive scum.
I have a transformation power I can use three times. At night, it does something that I'm not going to say. During the day, it lets me look at someone and learn about them.
I can stalk someone during the night to find out more about them.
So: 3x transformation power that can be used on daytime investigate, along with a nighttime investigate, both bearing two different results.
I have a transformation power I can use three times. At night, it does something that I'm not going to say. During the day, it lets me look at someone and learn about them.
I can stalk someone during the night to find out more about them.
So: 3x transformation power that can be used on daytime investigate, along with a nighttime investigate, both bearing two different results.
Unknown2009-02-23 07:17:24
QUOTE (Furien @ Feb 23 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been deliberately leaving out a part of my role because it could reveal my weakness to any attentive scum.
I have a transformation power I can use three times. At night, it does something that I'm not going to say. During the day, it lets me look at someone and learn about them.
I can stalk someone during the night to find out more about them.
So: 3x transformation power that can be used on daytime investigate, along with a nighttime investigate, both bearing two different results.
I have a transformation power I can use three times. At night, it does something that I'm not going to say. During the day, it lets me look at someone and learn about them.
I can stalk someone during the night to find out more about them.
So: 3x transformation power that can be used on daytime investigate, along with a nighttime investigate, both bearing two different results.
Alright, I believe you. All my musings were assuming that you wrere scum. So you really do have two (three if you consider day/night transform as two different abilities) investigating abilities?
Unknown2009-02-23 07:18:51
Erm, I didn't phrase that properly. In essence, what I was asking was that you really have two investigative abilities.
Fania2009-02-23 07:32:00
Going to bed, I guess we wont get this done today. Night all!
Fania2009-02-23 07:33:32
You know what would be interesting? If Tekora knew She would be gone today, or otherwise caused it. Just a thought. Anyways see you later!
Unknown2009-02-23 09:02:39
QUOTE (daganev @ Feb 20 2009, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regardin the tomato. I said Narsrim was scummy for revealing information on the item... why would I then reveal information about my tomato? I think that revealing info on items is a BAD IDEA. For example, if my tomato gave me nightkill immunity, I wouldn't want the scum to know that, because I would rather they target me and waste a kill. So I'm not going to say what the tomato does or doesn't do. Telling the scum "hey look I'm immune don't waste a kill on me" just seems like a bad idea, as does saying "hey look I have this awesome item, you should try to steal it from me tonight!"
Nowhere before this post did I see any mention of stealing items. Does this mean you have such an ability?
Kiradawea2009-02-23 10:26:11
Kat&Ana finish their latest prank and laugh heartily as S.A.W. stumbles over a tripwire. However, S.A.W. is starting to get boring, so they set of to tease Noola with their games.
The group looks around, but find that it is impossible to lynch someone who isn't present.
Vote count!
Noola:1 (Kat&Ana)
Caerulo: 0
Shamarah: 1 (Kiriwe)
Shaddus: 0
Diamondais: 2 (Archer2, S.A.W.)
Unnamed: 6 (Noola, Fania, Llandros, Daganev+1, Casilu)
With 19 alive, it's 10 to lynch, but you're gonna need 12 to get through Gardevoir.
The group looks around, but find that it is impossible to lynch someone who isn't present.
Vote count!
Noola:1 (Kat&Ana)
Caerulo: 0
Shamarah: 1 (Kiriwe)
Shaddus: 0
Diamondais: 2 (Archer2, S.A.W.)
Unnamed: 6 (Noola, Fania, Llandros, Daganev+1, Casilu)
With 19 alive, it's 10 to lynch, but you're gonna need 12 to get through Gardevoir.
