Unknown2009-03-12 10:04:55
That said, I can see why both sides have their merits. At the moment, we are at 4 each. we still have three more voters.
Rika2009-03-12 10:12:56
QUOTE (Caerulo @ Mar 12 2009, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget, unless Rika is the Godfather, the mafia can assign other people to do the killing, not necessarily Rika.
This is flawed. If I am the Godfather, then you are saying the mafia can't assign other people. If I am not the Godfather, which means I am likely innocent (unless you want to go with some weird shapeshifting ability), then you don't have to worry about this anyway.
Still standing by what I said. I can prove it by resurrecting Doman/whoever tonight.
Unknown2009-03-12 10:16:08
Wow, this is getting really convoluted. If Zynna's not lying (which is probably true, as we've said, it would be suicide if she were scum) then only way rika could be scum is if she has an innocence ability. We determined that godfathers often have innocence abilities. So Rika is either the godfather, or innocent.
I thought it was, the godfather (ie. leader of scum) chooses who to night kill. If the godfather is dead, then someone else does. And the chain of command is passed down like that? At least it was like that for the other forum mafia games I followed and read.
I thought it was, the godfather (ie. leader of scum) chooses who to night kill. If the godfather is dead, then someone else does. And the chain of command is passed down like that? At least it was like that for the other forum mafia games I followed and read.
Unknown2009-03-12 10:17:08
I saw a Sadhyra, who then left without posting. Would like your opinion...
Unknown2009-03-12 10:18:55
QUOTE (rika @ Mar 12 2009, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is flawed. If I am the Godfather, then you are saying the mafia can't assign other people. If I am not the Godfather, which means I am likely innocent (unless you want to go with some weird shapeshifting ability), then you don't have to worry about this anyway.
Still standing by what I said. I can prove it by resurrecting Doman/whoever tonight.
Still standing by what I said. I can prove it by resurrecting Doman/whoever tonight.
Hrm. I did manage to mess up my logic. Now I can't remember how I got to that conclusion. Let me clear my head a little.
Enero2009-03-12 13:05:13
Hrm, people are making claims left and right.
Not completely sure what to do now... I keep my vote for now, until I figure out.
A question though. If Rika indeed is a scum and a big one at that, the Godfather, does a roleblock stop her from ordering other scum to kill? If it does, I suppose it would be reasonable to lynch someone else and roleblock Rika to be on the safe side. Even if she is the rezzer like she claims, wasting the rezz on Doman won't do much to help us.
Not completely sure what to do now... I keep my vote for now, until I figure out.
A question though. If Rika indeed is a scum and a big one at that, the Godfather, does a roleblock stop her from ordering other scum to kill? If it does, I suppose it would be reasonable to lynch someone else and roleblock Rika to be on the safe side. Even if she is the rezzer like she claims, wasting the rezz on Doman won't do much to help us.
Furien2009-03-12 13:19:03
Still here, just waiting on Zynna's reply.
Unknown2009-03-12 13:41:27
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 12 2009, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I saw a Sadhyra, who then left without posting. Would like your opinion...
Sorry, was on break at work. Didn't have time to post anything. My opinion is as stated before - try to form a network. I'm a bit disappointed that we've not heard anything of that, so I'll be FoSing the people who glossed over that plan. If we can establish what other roles are floating about, it'll be lots easier to determine which of the Raphaels is the, pardon the pun, forgery.
Zynna2009-03-12 13:47:54
Without quoting exactly, after I told Daganov I wanted to investiage Rika I was told that my discovery revealed that Rika is the angel Rapahel. the resurrector of souls.
I've only played mafia live twice before, but I've never heard of an impersonator. How would the investigator role be useful if so?
Based on that, I have to believe Rika is innocent, which means Diamondais must be scum for claiming her name. So my vote remains on him.
I've only played mafia live twice before, but I've never heard of an impersonator. How would the investigator role be useful if so?
Based on that, I have to believe Rika is innocent, which means Diamondais must be scum for claiming her name. So my vote remains on him.
Unknown2009-03-12 13:54:09
Alright, I am convinced. If by some freak chance both Rika and Diamonadais are townie, Rika can ressurect Diamondais anyway. Otherwise, resurrect Doman.
Unvote
Vote: Diamondais
Unvote
Vote: Diamondais
Diamondais2009-03-12 14:08:59
QUOTE (Arix @ Mar 12 2009, 05:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Having read the last few pages and thought about it, I will VOTE: DIAMONDAIS
Besides, no doctor in their right mind would waste a protect on me
Besides, no doctor in their right mind would waste a protect on me
I actually did it because you usually are the one who is gone for the first night.
I stand by what I am.
Unknown2009-03-12 14:14:49
At the moment, you are at 5 votes, meaning two votes away from being lynched. Do you have anything that might make us reconsider?
Daganev2009-03-12 15:11:42
You guys were correct before, it is 6 to lynch I forgot to change that part of my sig!
Unknown2009-03-12 15:13:57
Diamondais, that means that you are at one vote away from lynching.
Daganev2009-03-12 15:15:33
fubar
Diamondais2009-03-12 15:50:40
Well, I do know I am Raphael.
My role states that I am a healer of God, each night I can choose to protect someone from great evil. I chose Arix, who doesn't think anyone in their right mind would protect him but I did in hopes of blocking a scum from doing what they always do, attack Arix.
Last night, there were no deaths. We know Rika was blocked. I protected Arix.
I received no message about my attempt to protect failing.
My role states that I am a healer of God, each night I can choose to protect someone from great evil. I chose Arix, who doesn't think anyone in their right mind would protect him but I did in hopes of blocking a scum from doing what they always do, attack Arix.
Last night, there were no deaths. We know Rika was blocked. I protected Arix.
I received no message about my attempt to protect failing.
Unknown2009-03-12 16:48:09
There are two things that are making me vacillate. One is that there were no kills last night, which means that either the roleblock was spot-on, or the scum really has a grudge against Arix living through to the second day (assuming diamondais did protect him). The second is that there is nothing in Raphael's wiki description that marks him as a resurrector of souls, and doctor makes much more sense in the context given ('healer of God').
Another point, diamondais was spot-on about describing her role PM. It matches exactly with what I know of mine, and scum wouldn't come forward with that information unless they were sure of the PMs being the same.
Another point, diamondais was spot-on about describing her role PM. It matches exactly with what I know of mine, and scum wouldn't come forward with that information unless they were sure of the PMs being the same.
Furien2009-03-12 21:21:37
Sorry, have to stir the waters. Again.
I am the angel Michael.
-I- have an investigative power.
I can use it each night. In addition, I also have the option to Judge a target of my choosing- it can be someone different from who I investigated.
However, the drawback is that I have to kill someone at least once every two nights or I lose my powers for good.
Having watched the conflicting role claims for awhile now, I'm inclined to Vote: Rika. FOS is definitely on Zynna as well.
I am the angel Michael.
-I- have an investigative power.
I can use it each night. In addition, I also have the option to Judge a target of my choosing- it can be someone different from who I investigated.
However, the drawback is that I have to kill someone at least once every two nights or I lose my powers for good.
Having watched the conflicting role claims for awhile now, I'm inclined to Vote: Rika. FOS is definitely on Zynna as well.
Enero2009-03-12 21:49:24
You're not stirring the water, you're like dropping a nuke in the Pacific Ocean...
If you -have- to kill someone at least once every two nights, why are you voting for Rika, instead of just killing her, since it's rather unlikely that you will sway the vote now with what you've said and diamondais is just -one- vote away. Just... curious.
Also, while in shower, I came up with another theory as to what is going on and why I believe Rika is scum, but I already forgot what it was. Either way, my vote stays.
If you -have- to kill someone at least once every two nights, why are you voting for Rika, instead of just killing her, since it's rather unlikely that you will sway the vote now with what you've said and diamondais is just -one- vote away. Just... curious.
Also, while in shower, I came up with another theory as to what is going on and why I believe Rika is scum, but I already forgot what it was. Either way, my vote stays.
Diamondais2009-03-12 22:01:58
QUOTE (Enero @ Mar 12 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're not stirring the water, you're like dropping a nuke in the Pacific Ocean...
If you -have- to kill someone at least once every two nights, why are you voting for Rika, instead of just killing her, since it's rather unlikely that you will sway the vote now with what you've said and diamondais is just -one- vote away. Just... curious.
Also, while in shower, I came up with another theory as to what is going on and why I believe Rika is scum, but I already forgot what it was. Either way, my vote stays.
If you -have- to kill someone at least once every two nights, why are you voting for Rika, instead of just killing her, since it's rather unlikely that you will sway the vote now with what you've said and diamondais is just -one- vote away. Just... curious.
Also, while in shower, I came up with another theory as to what is going on and why I believe Rika is scum, but I already forgot what it was. Either way, my vote stays.
Him bringing up what he did puts more suspicion on to Rika and Zynna, the ones who claim to be what he and I counter claimed against.