Lusternia Quiz

by Estarra

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Unknown2009-03-15 22:14:48
I got Serenwilde, but I can betcha I was really close to getting Celest tongue.gif
Shaddus2009-03-15 23:00:17
I think the quiz is nice, but it would be better if you had more than the obvious celest/sere/mag/glom choice. Maybe one that would count for two spots (Do you like walking on marble or leaves?) or something of the same idea.
Daved2009-03-20 19:45:14
I'm a seren.
Unknown2009-03-20 19:54:38
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 16 2009, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the quiz is nice, but it would be better if you had more than the obvious celest/sere/mag/glom choice. Maybe one that would count for two spots (Do you like walking on marble or leaves?) or something of the same idea.

Frankly speaking, almost all quiz questions/options are very obvious. I can very easily game the answers to give whatever result want for most quizzes, which is why I always take them with a pinch of salt, even those professional ones, like DISC, etc.
Kio2009-03-21 06:24:52
QUOTE (Estarra @ Mar 15 2009, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The questions are obviously non-serious. If you have some suggestions for more questions (and answers), post them here and I may add them!


I devised a simple list of four questions, each with five answers. The questions, as well as the answers, offer a more serious tone to the quiz, and perhaps they could help the thought process! =]

However, I decided to go ahead and shoot them to you in a PM, as in the event you decide to use them, you don't want everyone to know how to get the desired result, do you?

For the rest of the forums, I offer this sample:

1) You are on a quest to cure your mother of a fatal illness. The cure is a rare plant, and upon finding it, you discover there is only one left in existence. What do you do?
A. You decide the plant should stay where it is. By removing it, you will be taking its healing powers from
generations to come.
B. You remove the plant to cure your mother. She is the only mother you will ever have.
C. You stand fervent guard of the plant. Your mother's death will not be in vain, but instead will give life to further
generations.
D. You remove the plant, but replant it in a much better location suited for its growth. Nature is an amazing force,
but imbued with your knowledge, it will grow forever more.
E. After much deliberation, you decide the plant should stay where it is. You know your mother will understand, for
one day her grandchildren may need this cure.

Yes, I am aware that there are two communes and two cities. Yes, I am also aware two plus two equals four. Perhaps two or three of the answers count toward the same result? Perhaps one of two of the answers don't even count at all?
Esano2009-03-21 07:05:11
Where's the "You purposefully overlook the plant, for your mother's death will open up a useful position for your advancement" option?
Casilu2009-03-21 07:07:31
QUOTE (Esano @ Mar 21 2009, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's the "You purposefully overlook the plant, for your mother's death will open up a useful position for your advancement" option?


That's what I would take. suspicious.gif

According to the quiz, I'm Mag IRL.
Kio2009-03-21 20:35:08
QUOTE (Esano @ Mar 21 2009, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where's the "You purposefully overlook the plant, for your mother's death will open up a useful position for your advancement" option?


I believe it's quite illogical to open situations like this, as this argues that your mother is always in a position which hinders your advancement.

Let's say that the pinnacle of your advancement would be the fictional title of "Guildbiscuit."

The only way your mother could hinder this positional advancement would be if she held the position of "Guildbiscuit."

If everyone in Lusternia were to take this test, there is no way possible for there to not be a situation in which they belong to the same guild. Therefore, both their mothers would have to hold the position of "Guildbiscuit."

Now, there are two possibilities to argue:

1) There is no limit to the amount of people who can hold this position. This would solve the problem of more than two mothers holding the position, but would defeat the purpose of the argument as you could also hold the position because your mother is no longer a problem.

2) There can only be one (or two, or three, etc. if you are going to try to be a -censored- about it) people who can hold the position. Two people can no longer take the quiz and select the same answer, as only ONE of their mothers could hold the position. Therefore, in picking this option it is merely a lie, and therefore the outcome would be skewed.

I'm inclined to go with option two.

Also, the goal of this logic is to give the best hidden answer to the question as possible. This is clearly a view which someone would associate with Glomdoring or Magnagora based on the feel of the answer. There is no doubt about it. However, the other answers try their best to hide this sort of association, in order to further skew the possibility of purposefully skewing the results.

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EDIT: Also, the question itself defeats this answer. "You are on a quest to cure your mother of a fatal illness." If you were to select an option like this, you would not waste your time looking for the plant, and therefore would not get the chance to overlook the plant.
kiriwe2009-03-21 20:42:47
QUOTE (Kio @ Mar 21 2009, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EDIT: Also, the question itself defeats this answer. "You are on a quest to cure your mother of a fatal illness." If you were to select an option like this, you would not waste your time looking for the plant, and therefore would not get the chance to overlook the plant.


Maybe the question should be reworded, then? Because maybe you wouldn't go on a quest to cure your mother in the first place XD
Kio2009-03-21 21:01:24
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Mar 21 2009, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe the question should be reworded, then? Because maybe you wouldn't go on a quest to cure your mother in the first place XD


This is true. However, you did. Therefore, since you went on the quest, you make the choice about the plant.

If the question wanted to ask you about going a quest to cure your mother, it would be a different question entirely with five completely different possible answers =]
Sylphas2009-03-21 22:31:15
QUOTE (Kio @ Mar 21 2009, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I devised a simple list of four questions, each with five answers. The questions, as well as the answers, offer a more serious tone to the quiz, and perhaps they could help the thought process! =]

However, I decided to go ahead and shoot them to you in a PM, as in the event you decide to use them, you don't want everyone to know how to get the desired result, do you?

For the rest of the forums, I offer this sample:
*snip*


I'm getting flashbacks to doing Sentinel guild interviews as a novice aide.
Kio2009-03-22 00:11:14
QUOTE (Sylphas @ Mar 21 2009, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting flashbacks to doing Sentinel guild interviews as a novice aide.


...don't judge me. Some things just stick =P
Esano2009-03-22 01:06:27
QUOTE (Kio @ Mar 22 2009, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is true. However, you did. Therefore, since you went on the quest, you make the choice about the plant.

If the question wanted to ask you about going a quest to cure your mother, it would be a different question entirely with five completely different possible answers =]

I'm trying to point out that you're missing various options. As said, what if you don't want to cure your mother? I gave a reason for that, trying to fit it into your question.

If I were filling that in as Esano, I can't honestly say there is any choice there he would pick. The closest might be B for selfcentred-ness. But note that four of the options are basically altruistic in nature (haha). If you're going to make a serious question, you need to have a much broader range of options.
Kio2009-03-22 05:07:15
QUOTE (Esano @ Mar 21 2009, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm trying to point out that you're missing various options. As said, what if you don't want to cure your mother? I gave a reason for that, trying to fit it into your question.

If I were filling that in as Esano, I can't honestly say there is any choice there he would pick. The closest might be B for selfcentred-ness. But note that four of the options are basically altruistic in nature (haha). If you're going to make a serious question, you need to have a much broader range of options.


That's the thing about these quizzes. You aren't meant to say exactly what you would do. You're meant to be forced to choose the best option out of a series of questions which are vague enough in an organisational sense, yet precise enough to apply it to aspects of your character and values.

That being said, I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here is any different than what was said earlier. In this particular hypothetical situation, you DO want to cure your mother. You can't set out on a quest to cure your mother if you wouldn't cure your mother in the first place. Then again, that's the beauty of hypothetical situations. They force you into a situation which may or may not actually happen!

As a note, I do so hate the internet for this very reason: when reading what I've said in response to you, most will probably think I'm coming off as a clinical jerk. In actuality, I'm trying not to, heh. I'm not trying to be a pain, or "call you out," I'm merely trying to explain that I have thought of situations which you've brought up. Hence why the other questions ask completely different things. Perhaps there's another question which is much more selfish in nature? Maybe you'll see =]
kiriwe2009-03-22 05:43:10
QUOTE (Kio @ Mar 22 2009, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the thing about these quizzes. You aren't meant to say exactly what you would do. You're meant to be forced to choose the best option out of a series of questions which are vague enough in an organisational sense, yet precise enough to apply it to aspects of your character and values.

That being said, I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here is any different than what was said earlier. In this particular hypothetical situation, you DO want to cure your mother. You can't set out on a quest to cure your mother if you wouldn't cure your mother in the first place. Then again, that's the beauty of hypothetical situations. They force you into a situation which may or may not actually happen!

As a note, I do so hate the internet for this very reason: when reading what I've said in response to you, most will probably think I'm coming off as a clinical jerk. In actuality, I'm trying not to, heh. I'm not trying to be a pain, or "call you out," I'm merely trying to explain that I have thought of situations which you've brought up. Hence why the other questions ask completely different things. Perhaps there's another question which is much more selfish in nature? Maybe you'll see =]


The thing is, the questions shouldn't be the thing that has a slant one way or the other, it should be the answers. I think what we're trying to say is that the answers should determine the outcome, not the way the questions are worded.

Out of your example question, I didn't see a Mag choice -or- a Glom choice, and in order for these sorts of things to be accurate, you have to have one of each choice available, otherwise the results are skewed because of how the question was worded.
Fania2009-03-22 05:55:54
Well my first result was Serenwilde, but then I went back and chance my answer. I decided I didn't want a kitty because I already have one IRL and she annoys me enough, so now I'm Glom. So basically I'm internally waging a pointless and oblivious war with myself...which strangely enough makes total sense.
Kio2009-03-22 18:41:39
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Mar 22 2009, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is, the questions shouldn't be the thing that has a slant one way or the other, it should be the answers. I think what we're trying to say is that the answers should determine the outcome, not the way the questions are worded.

Out of your example question, I didn't see a Mag choice -or- a Glom choice, and in order for these sorts of things to be accurate, you have to have one of each choice available, otherwise the results are skewed because of how the question was worded.


That's the thing. You shouldn't recognize which choice would lead to which outcome. It seems there's no way around it, so here:

A. You decide the plant should stay where it is. By removing it, you will be taking its healing powers from
generations to come. (Serenwilde: Pure Nature should be left to its own design. By removing the plant for any
reason, you are destroying a necessary part of Nature.)
B. You remove the plant to cure your mother. She is the only mother you will ever have. (Magnagora: While not
really a selfish thing to do, it advances only the will of your faction and ignores all others.)
C. You stand fervent guard of the plant. Your mother's death will not be in vain, but instead will give life to further
generations. (Celest: Leaving the plant will bring about the most good.)
D. You remove the plant, but replant it in a much better location suited for its growth. Nature is an amazing force,
but imbued with your knowledge, it will grow forever more. (Glomdoring: The plant should be perfected by being
reborn after Tainted death.)
E. After much deliberation, you decide the plant should stay where it is. You know your mother will understand, for
one day her grandchildren may need this cure. (Celest: The will of benevolence should flow forth not only from
*your* soul, but all the souls of which you've touched.)
Unknown2009-04-08 04:02:31
Huh. I ended up in Glomdoring. Odd. I have alts all over the place... except in Glomdoring.
Unknown2009-04-10 04:16:53
serenwilde.....


...noo offense but the questions are pretty obvious as to what is what
kiriwe2009-04-10 04:20:16
QUOTE (Shadow Aes @ Apr 10 2009, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
serenwilde.....


...noo offense but the questions are pretty obvious as to what is what


Really? We hadn't noticed.

Thanks for enlightening us.