Daganev2009-03-26 02:54:32
Is it possible that it wasn't the joker that made people non-vanilla, but that it was just some wierd starting condition? Meaning the Joker only targets one person, but also, random people got roles?
Diamondais2009-03-26 02:55:01
This is getting a bit tricky, three conversions the first night? At this rate, there wont be any normal townies left after a couple days at best.
Shamarah2009-03-26 02:55:21
Yes, I'm still pro-town (but it isn't like I wouldn't say that even if I were anti-town now). I don't see any particular benefit to revealing my role at the moment, even though it's a fairly weak one. I mean, I can if people really want me to but it'd be rather pointless.
Daganev2009-03-26 02:55:21
Also, now that Shamarah has posted and made himself a target, any word from Shaddus?
Diamondais2009-03-26 02:57:36
Shaddus doesn't appear to be on the forums at all as far as I can see, is he still playing and does he know he is?
Dugan2009-03-26 02:59:52
QUOTE (Shamarah @ Mar 25 2009, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I'm still pro-town (but it isn't like I wouldn't say that even if I were anti-town now). I don't see any particular benefit to revealing my role at the moment, even though it's a fairly weak one. I mean, I can if people really want me to but it'd be rather pointless.
I know. Its not like we have any way to investigate it that I know of, but at least it is out there that you are still on the towns side. I will go back to my original thing. He was posting on other posts today but not over on this one. Zero posts from him since the game started.
Unvote: Shamarah
Vote: Shaddus
Tekora2009-03-26 03:02:49
And I'm going back to my suspicions on Dugan.
Unvote: Shamarah
Vote: Dugan
Why? Because he pushed for no-lynch yesterday, jumped on Shiri's bandwagon today without a reason, and pulled an OMGUS when I voted for him the first time today. That tells me that he has something to hide.
Unvote: Shamarah
Vote: Dugan
Why? Because he pushed for no-lynch yesterday, jumped on Shiri's bandwagon today without a reason, and pulled an OMGUS when I voted for him the first time today. That tells me that he has something to hide.
Tekora2009-03-26 03:05:16
Sorry, Dugan HAD a reason to vote Shamarah, but he didn't want to share what Casilu said. That's what got me on his case today.
I'll probably be on his case tomorrow too, if he ends up surviving today. I seriously don't trust him.
I'll probably be on his case tomorrow too, if he ends up surviving today. I seriously don't trust him.
Shiri2009-03-26 03:06:40
QUOTE (daganev @ Mar 26 2009, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shiri, can you restate your defense more clearly? You were all over the place and not making any sense.
Shamarah, why don't you just tell us what your role is then?
So we had 3 conversions on night 1? *boggle*
Shamarah, why don't you just tell us what your role is then?
So we had 3 conversions on night 1? *boggle*
If I was all over the place it's because your accusations were all over the place, so I'll just state what happened.
Jack came out as a bomb. Not seeing why a bomb would claim so early, I thought it'd be a good idea to test it. We could almost-lynch someone likely to be the joker, then get them to vote for Jack. If they were the joker, they wouldn't and we could lynch them. If they weren't, they might, and we could see if Jack was telling the truth or not. Worst case, scenario he was telling the truth and just playing inappropriately for town, and the guy we caught was a vanilla due to insufficient investigation on our part. Luckily only one of those things were true, meaning my plan worked in the town's favour.
Because of your bad reasoning and trying to avoid getting in the way of the joker's win condition, as well as the scummy no-lynch thing, I thought you were the joker and voted for you. Since you ended up helping the town get two abnormals lynched, one of whom was a major threat, which both dampens the threat against the town and prevents the joker from getting a vanilla lynched and contributing to his win condition, I suspect that you were just playing badly with most of your reasoning and not actually a scum.
I had suspicions that Shamarah's a scum, but Casilu is clearly hinting that he's telling the truth and we're just asking the wrong questions (she wouldn't have pointed at her votecount thing if she didn't want us to feel cheated that she lied to us later on), so now I'm not so sure. My next suspicion is Solanis, but I'd also like to kill or awaken the inactives. Lurking seems like a particularly vicious strategy in this game because there's only one person instead of like 4 (well, he probably converted someone last night so up to 2, or even 3) who's a threat so it's harder to grab them out of the inactive roster. Plus they don't need to survive the whole game to win, unlike a mafia.
Shiri2009-03-26 03:07:30
I didn't see any of the intervening posts between his and mine while I was typing that, for the record.
Dugan2009-03-26 03:12:06
QUOTE (Tekora @ Mar 25 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I'm going back to my suspicions on Dugan.
Unvote: Shamarah
Vote: Dugan
Why? Because he pushed for no-lynch yesterday, jumped on Shiri's bandwagon today without a reason, and pulled an OMGUS when I voted for him the first time today. That tells me that he has something to hide.
Unvote: Shamarah
Vote: Dugan
Why? Because he pushed for no-lynch yesterday, jumped on Shiri's bandwagon today without a reason, and pulled an OMGUS when I voted for him the first time today. That tells me that he has something to hide.
Okay. First off. I pushed for a no-lynch yesterday ...
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Mar 23 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hrm.
I say we vote for a no lynch.
I say we vote for a no lynch.
I never actually voted for a no-lynch, but if thats your idea of pushing for one, your nuts.
I never voted for Shiri today or yesterday, so I have no clue as to why you say I jumped on Shiri's bandwagon.
and I pulled an OMGUS, because I posted I was FOS: Tekora. Yeah, cause your spaz. Back it up with facts or sit down on the short bus. Show me where I pushed for the no-lynch and show me where I voted for Shiri.
Dugan2009-03-26 03:13:42
QUOTE (Tekora @ Mar 25 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, Dugan HAD a reason to vote Shamarah, but he didn't want to share what Casilu said. That's what got me on his case today.
I'll probably be on his case tomorrow too, if he ends up surviving today. I seriously don't trust him.
I'll probably be on his case tomorrow too, if he ends up surviving today. I seriously don't trust him.
And I didn't post my PM to the Mod or her reply because of rule 8 on page 1. Let me get it for you ...
Do not quote anything relevant to the game from outside the thread. That includes PMs or parts of PMs from me, PMs from people you can talk to at night, or random observations third parties make elsewhere.
No. I wasn't going to post what the Mod PM'ed me. Funny when Shiri ninja-posted your thing you didn't question him ....
kiriwe2009-03-26 03:17:26
I just saw Shaddus posting, so I think he just completely forgot, can we get a mod-prod?
Tekora2009-03-26 03:21:47
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Mar 25 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I won't post what the Mod sent back. But it is contradictory to what he posted, bad lie. Feel free to ask the Mod for yourself if you don't believe me.
QUOTE (Shiri @ Mar 25 2009, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vote: Shamarah. Paraphrased: "no."
Shiri was short and to the point in his answer. You, on the other hand, didn't even try to paraphrase Casilu's response, and you tacked on the '...if you don't believe me.' line at the end. When someone uses the '...if you don't believe me.' line, it's usually a red light that they're lying, in Mafia or even in real-life. Also, the way you OMGUS'd when I voted for you all but PROVED to me that you have something to hide, because honestly, why else would you snap at me like that for voting for you, even if I've already voted for you the day before?
Shaddus2009-03-26 03:28:14
Sorry, just remembered that I was playing. Thanks, Casilu.
Ahem. What's going on?
Ahem. What's going on?
Dugan2009-03-26 03:37:04
QUOTE (Tekora @ Mar 25 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shiri was short and to the point in his answer. You, on the other hand, didn't even try to paraphrase Casilu's response, and you tacked on the '...if you don't believe me.' line at the end. When someone uses the '...if you don't believe me.' line, it's usually a red light that they're lying, in Mafia or even in real-life. Also, the way you OMGUS'd when I voted for you all but PROVED to me that you have something to hide, because honestly, why else would you snap at me like that for voting for you, even if I've already voted for you the day before?
I am sorry. I am still waiting for the Shiri bandwagon and where I pushed the no-lynch. You saying something about that yet?
I did snap. Your showing a pattern ... Your not backing it up your posts with anything your saying. Your just throwing things out there. If your gonna throw it out there, be able to back it up.
QUOTE (Shamarah @ Mar 25 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you don't believe me, PM Casilu yourself.
Both Shiri and I sent the Mod a PM. Shamarah posted that. You jumping on him? Really. No red flag for him? Oh wait, it seems he was telling the truth.
kiriwe2009-03-26 03:39:41
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 25 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, just remembered that I was playing. Thanks, Casilu.
Ahem. What's going on?
Ahem. What's going on?
You are welcome.
XD
Well, there is something like 3 joker conversions Night 0, we took 2 of em out yesterday, but there might have been two more conversions during night 1.
Daganev and Shiri were pointing fingers at each other, but now it's just Daganev.
Tekora is being ANGERY and beng super suspicious of Dugan.
And there is some sort of controversy over how many jokers there actually are, as Casilu is answering questions, but not actually coming out and saying it in the thread.
Unvote
Shaddus2009-03-26 03:42:25
QUOTE (Kiriwe y'Kaliath @ Mar 25 2009, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are welcome.
XD
XD
.. You're Casilu as well?
And I thought there was only supposed to be one per night?
kiriwe2009-03-26 03:43:11
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 25 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.. You're Casilu as well?
And I thought there was only supposed to be one per night?
And I thought there was only supposed to be one per night?
I asked for the mod prod
kiriwe2009-03-26 03:43:53
yeah, that's what I thought too.
about the one per night thing
about the one per night thing