Let's say there were 3 conversions on Night 0.

Shiri targetted Jack, Silferras, and Shamarah.

Jack was a bomb.
Silferras was an arsonist.

Jack and Silferras died at Sunset on Day 1.

Which leaves Shamarah as the last remaining abnormal from Night 0.

Why is this so hard for you guys to deduct on your own?

um, I mistyped?
yeesh, you are such an angry person

But you forget, Tekora, that there is Night 1's conversion that we know nothing about.

Possible current situations

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#1 - 3 conversions on Night Zero

Night 0 - 3 conversions (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah)

Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die

Night 1 - Unknown person converted

Day 2 - Shiri dies

Night 2 - ???

Day 3 - Current

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#2 - 2 people converted on Night 0

Night 0 - 2 people converted (Jack, Silferras)

Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die

Night 1 - Shamarah converted

Day 2 - Shiri dies

Night 2 - ???

Day 3 - Current

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#3 - Four or more people converted on Night 0

Night 0 - Four (or more) people converted (Jack, Silferras, Shamarah, (Daganev?),

Day 1 - Jack and Silferras die

Night 1 - Unknown person converted

Day 2 - Shiri dies

Night 2 - ???

Day 3 - Current

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This is a list of all the possible current scenarios, in one of them, Shamarah is the only remaining abnormal, and in two, he's one of the remaining abnormals.

So tell me, how is lynching Shamarah in any way, other than losing a (possible) investigator, who has so far given us no important information, and has in fact, vigorously resisted any attempt to get him to reveal his role or any other actual information. Hell, the first time he revealed ANY information actually pertaining to the game was ON THE PAGE BEFORE THIS, which only assures me in my suspicion that he's OUTRIGHT LYING.

Shamarah was converted Night 0, there would be no reason at all for him to lie about which night he was converted on.

If he is a watcher, I would rather not kill him straight off. Where is the good in killing him?

Your motives are a little skewed I think.

Vote: Tekora

The good in killing him is that in one of the above situations, killing him ends the game. In another(the most likely) one, there's a 50% chance that killing him ends the game.

Also, you say my motives are skewed, but I'd like to know what you think my motives are, then I'll tell you what they REALLY are.

And are you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE that he was converted on Night 0? No, because you only have his roleclaim to go on.

Reality check, Kiriwe. Just because someone roleclaims doesn't mean that it's TRUE. Stop being so naive.

The two possible motives for killing Shamarah are these:

Kill the watcher, so I don't get caught

Kill the convert, in case he's lying.


Now, if he hadn't willingly come forth with his conversion, we would have no idea he was a convert in the first place, and we wouldn't be suspicious of him. He also has a pretty decent reason not to want to say what his ability is, especially since he didn't have any information to share with us yet, and didn't claim under serious pressure of being lynched, he claimed after being asked a couple times, which in my opinion, speaks to him being honest.

I see absolutely no value in claiming to have been converted on a different night than you were actually converted, especially when he claimed which night he was converted BEFORE we lynched the Joker.

If you can tell me a good reason he would lie about which night he was converted on, I will consider changing my vote.

Ok, and to tell you my true motive, I'm going to go back to my first post today and quote it directly.



My motive: KILL ALL ABNORMALS. Even if they could possibly be pro-town.

That's it. That's my goal.

For the best reason as to why Shamarah would want to lie about the day he was converted, look at Possible Situation #2 up above.

If Shamarah was converted on Night 1, instead of Night 0, it would leave him as the last remaining abnormal, which means that he's the last scum. Thus, in order to prevent anyone from making this deduction and eliminating Possible Situations #1 and #3, he would want to claim to be changed on Night 0, thus planting the seed of doubt in our minds that there's another unknown possible scum out there, to divert heat from himself.

If you don't remember clearly, I will remind you.

Shamarah claimed which night he was claimed on BEFORE WE LYNCHED THE JOKER.

er, claimed which night he was converted on, rather

And the Joker likely got 5 conversions on Night 0, as stated by the joke role she put out first.

What does that matter? Day 2 came after Night 1, and Shamarah's a clever enough player to know to have an insurance policy.

Renthur, I see you reading, thoughts?

I think 5 would be excessive, but 3 sounds like a very reasonable number to me.

Notice the rest of the list I compiled. Dugan. Solanis. Daganev. All possible abnormals, based on their behavior.

If shamarah were in serious risk of a lynch, I'd assume he were a jester or another bomb, Tekora seems to usually play like this, and as I said, the five is based on the joke role she put first, because no one got an accurate answer in PMs and she probably got tired of 'em.

How is Daganev suspicious?

And compiling a list of possible targets in case you are wrong is a common scum tell

Umm, Shamarah didn't post at all on Day 1, so..... yeah