Erm.

Domoths? They have to come to you, really. Though they can slowly break it, depending on where the crown is it can be pretty effective. Same with a place where the entire area can be made a demesne (EthSeren, EthGlom) without really being able to do a whole lot to it.

It doesn't really get used in normal fights, you're right. But there's been some use of it to split groups up in large conflicts where there's a central goal that is being protected.

Rad is amazing in melds in just about any situation.

I almost never fused ger. Haegl, gyfu, cen are all a good choice to fuse.

Sigil is also amazing to fuse for attrition.

Ger justifies the entire skillset pretty singlehandedly for druids. Ger is the whole reason runes works at all. Sigil is one of the worst runes in the game. And WTF is a Hartstone even trying to do with haegl or sigil?

You know, if you aliased over infusing sigil with infusing ger, you might think a little more highly of saplocks.

Interesting that I kill people and you... do what? talk about it.

I am pretty sure I know what I am doing. Maybe one day I will teach you.

Except you usually don't do much except complain about how bad saplock is and try to use your envoy position to improve a druid's already massive potency in a demesne.

I have never once said sap lock is bad, I have said that sap lock can be cured by anyone know what they are doing, but luckily those people are few and far between. Nor have I been buffing demesne. Perhaps you should learn what you are talking about. Or better yet... stop talking.

He said "massive potency in a demesne". Which is quite a valid point. AncestralCurse in the trees, for example.

Not my suggestion, was it?

Yeah, don't think it was. Raise cudgel sure was!

True.

Could go with ringwalk and cudgel, though, I suppose.

Raise Cudgel is also not a "demesne upgrade".

"Potency in a demesne," not "Demesne potency".

It's not used outside of a demesne. It doesn't have to be an upgrade to FORESTCAST X DEMESNE to be an upgrade to a druid geared towards the demesne.

Yes, could go with skills that the envoys agree need boosting. I fully agree I am a bad envoy that people agree with me on my suggestions.. .Well people other than Xavius who brought us such gems as ... death prophecy and malign curse

:censor: it's not used outside of a demesne. Maybe this is why you aren't killing people. How about you get krellan over there to teach you some things.

This makes the third time you were told this, but DeathProphecy is Estarra's idea. If you, you know, use your lovely wiki access to go look at the report, you can even see what MalignProphecy was supposed to accomplish in its original context.

For the record, I think I remember Krellan saying the raise cudgel buff was not needed.

Any skill that gets made less than useless is going to increase 'potency in a demsne'. That doesn't make them 'upgrades to demesne' That makes them skills that need a tweak and getting them.

In fact any skill that gets upgraded in any class period is going to increase 'potency in X'

That may be, but that's what he was saying. Not "demesne potency".