Oh, silly me.

Voted to get rid of you, and some might (and according to the votes, do) think that's a wonderful suggestion.

I never asked you to roleclaim. That was someone else. Not that it really matters, it was a joke, but if you are going to push it....at least be correct.

As for Shaddus, honestly, every game Shaddus plays he tends to do things that are scummy like prodding for claims for no reason. I don't know what it is about him. Maybe he's just scummy IRL.

Not that you're necessarily advocating this, but we can't really ignore it even if he does tend to act scummy as a townie too. This isn't just a scum tell from some arb list on the internet, unnecessary rolefishing is an activity that directly helps the scum organise their gameplan. Letting people get away with this stuff on grounds like "he's always doing stuff like that" is a risk we can't afford to take.

I'm not sure I should answer that question at this time.
I'll just tell you that my power can only be used during the day time.

oh, and BTW!.... Asking someone for thier power , is much more important than asking for thier role name!! So I'm not understanding why you would say, "I'm not asking for a full role claim" because by asking me what my power is, you ARE asking for a full roleclaim...

Right, I was just pointing out his history. What I mean to say is, on it's own, it's not enough for me to lynch him. At this point in time, anyways.

Ok. Well, I think it's better than any of our other leads, depending on what Kiriwe says when she gets back.

Ok, since I took no night action last night, and since Kiriwe couldn't have used my power... (or actually maybe she did? hmm.. yeah I can see that maybe she caused me to use my power at night in a twisted way) this line of conversation is a dead end.

I still think Casilu is a valid lynch target, unless someone has a better option. In addition to her "mourning a cop or doctor", she was very defensive about it, then she got agressively defended by Shaddus (shaddus is another option for lynch target I guess), and now since that point in time, she appears to have ignored the rest of the conversation entirely, presumeably to stay under the radar. I was expecting Casilu to be more active in the conversation since we stopped focusing on her if she was town. But since she went to lurky mode, I think we should re-examine her.

Assuming Kiriwe is town, I'm guessing she is going to want to just drop the whole subject

Ok, wait a minute, hold up. Where is this "Kiriwe couldn't have used my power" thing coming from? Why would that be one of your options? I haven't heard of anything like that before - using other peoples' powers? Do you have some reason to believe that's the case?

She asked me if I had a power. Assuming she is town, I take that to mean that she did something last night to discover that I have a power. Since I didn't use my power (since I can't), she can't be a watcher of sorts. Our cop was allready killed, so she isn't that either.
She also said something "strange" happened. The only thing that I can assume then is that she was able to activate my power. But it's just a wild guess, and there is no reason for her to confirm or deny that guess.


Again, I suggest we focus on Casilu or Shaddus before we reveal information that can only help the scum and not us.

How is it possible for Kiriwe to use your power/make you use your power in a twisted way? Although, if it's lame then it really isn't an issue

Ok. I'm gonna suggest Shaddus because I don't find Casilu that scummy, and if one's as good as the other to you that's fine. Just for reference though, what did she say that struck you as unjustifiably defensive?

I'm guessing this day is going to take a while though, the vote trains are sluggish...

If it is a lame ability by what you say, how would that help the scum? You have an innate ability that can only be used during the day. Kirwie said she wanted to know why what happened happened. But if you didn't use it and its innate, why would whatever happened happened. To me, it looks here like you are trying to deflect and shift the focus off you and back to Cas or Shad or back on Kirwie.

I can also say the same for Shiri and his 'Oh silly me' comment. Shiri, your better than that. You missing things is out of your norm.

VOTE: Daganev.

Um, ok. If you want to take a scum tell out of missing a post, that was on the same page and could have been (and was) pointed out to me instantly, and I didn't try to make a fuss over it and just explained to Kiriwe that her question had been answered and she didn't need to wait (or so I thought), that's stretching just a little!

Forgetting crap and misreading things the first time is definitely normal for me, sadly...normally I can just edit my posts, but in mafia not so much

Your reasons for voting Daganev are also pretty weird. Maybe he is deflecting or whatever, but he didn't say anything I can see about his lame ability helping the scum, or anything like that. He just said, Kiriwe will drop it if she's town.

I do feel it to be a bit out of the norm for you Shiri. Generally, no you don't miss things. You have always come across as being very reliable and seem to remember posts from pages ago. It was just one of those little things that made me sit back and go 'huh'.

As for the vote on Dag. His answers to me ( and to you, were defensive and in the quote above deflecting ). That right there is grounds for a vote. Granted, not enough for a lynch but definately a vote. Kirwie is asking him about something he/his ability has done and he responds to if she is town and its a lame ability, I think we should focus more on Cas and Shad. Its a bit deflective, an attempt to shift the focus and he didn't really answer anything.

Dag posted that since he took no night action. He also posted before that its an innate ability that only activates during the day. I see questions. Kirwie saw something. I doubt she will let it drop.

It sounds a bit weird, because I got the impression that Kiriwe was some form of investigator due to the questions she was asking. However, she mentioned later that something 'happened,' which makes it seem like she tried to perform an action on Daganev but got an unexpected response. This doesn't mesh at all with Daganev's claim that his power can only be used in the day - Kiriwe didn't seem to be asking about powers explicitly, but about an 'innate ability.'

To clarify, I don't know if Kiriwe was using the term interchangeably, but I would classify things like investigation/kills/protection as a power - that is, you send a target to the mod, which activates the power and does whatever. An innate ability would be.. innate - for example, being nightkill-immune, or innocent.

All right, I'm going to go with Casilu on this one. I'm not getting a vibe off Shaddus

VOTE CASILU

I am curious about Daganev's power though

Daganev if your power was used today then would we of seen its effect yet or would it only show up once we lynched someone?