Shiri2009-04-30 14:00:39
Ok, here's what's thrown me. Solanis claims to be a roleblocker, and to have targetted Bali, then me. Bali died immediately after night 1. But then, the night AFTER that (I'd already cloned Casilu's skill by this point) I got it upgraded. It seems like the only person in the game who either has or claims such a power is Balizar - and it was used on me so I doubt it was a scum, otherwise they would claim to have Balizar's ability too or something as a defence. The only thing I can think of is that Solanis like...stores and redirects or something like that. I really have no idea how it happened, but either way his claim of targets and what happened is too coincidental, and he didn't admit to doing any such thing so it can't have been on purpose as a townie.
Unvote Vote: Solanis
Also, Saaga is supposedly yet another investigator. Idk. Kiriwe, you can check her tonight I suppose. And, I believe Archer over Dugan, so I may vote for him, but I want a good explanation out of someone for this Solanis business first.
Incidentally, in a game with this many town powers, it seems likely that there are 4 scum in addition to the SK, so we might be dealing with Dugan/Solanis/Saaga?/Tekora?/Shaddus? here.
Unvote Vote: Solanis
Also, Saaga is supposedly yet another investigator. Idk. Kiriwe, you can check her tonight I suppose. And, I believe Archer over Dugan, so I may vote for him, but I want a good explanation out of someone for this Solanis business first.
Incidentally, in a game with this many town powers, it seems likely that there are 4 scum in addition to the SK, so we might be dealing with Dugan/Solanis/Saaga?/Tekora?/Shaddus? here.
Unknown2009-04-30 14:04:23
QUOTE (Shiri @ Apr 30 2009, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, here's what's thrown me. Solanis claims to be a roleblocker, and to have targetted Bali, then me. Bali died immediately after night 1. But then, the night AFTER that (I'd already cloned Casilu's skill by this point) I got it upgraded. It seems like the only person in the game who either has or claims such a power is Balizar -
No, I believe I know how your powers got upgraded and it has nothing to do with Balizar. Othero's ability to choose fund Health, Law Inforcement or Education fell to me after he died, and I immediately chose Health because I thought they might make the jump from President to Vice-President, and I didn't want the ability to go to waste.
kiriwe2009-04-30 14:06:16
I can check her, but if she doesnt find anything out (ie, fails), I'm not sure whether or not I'll be able to tell if she has an investigate power or not.
Unknown2009-04-30 14:06:41
Also, yeah, when I think about all the roles "make sense" in a sort of way. Like they explained Sham's ability to check people's rooms as a Landlord or my ability to make a speech for a double-vote.
What connection is there between a dietitian...and a double-vote?
What connection is there between a dietitian...and a double-vote?
Shiri2009-04-30 14:06:53
QUOTE (Archer2 @ Apr 30 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I believe I know how your powers got upgraded and it has nothing to do with Balizar. Othero's ability to choose fund Health, Law Inforcement or Education fell to me after he died, and I immediately chose Health because I thought they might make the jump from President to Vice-President, and I didn't want the ability to go to waste.
Orly.
Unvote Vote: Dugan
Sorry Solanis!
Shiri2009-04-30 14:08:36
QUOTE (Archer2 @ Apr 30 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, yeah, when I think about all the roles "make sense" in a sort of way. Like they explained Sham's ability to check people's rooms as a Landlord or my ability to make a speech for a double-vote.
What connection is there between a dietitian...and a double-vote?
What connection is there between a dietitian...and a double-vote?
He "adds weight" to it. I thought it was a pretty good pun, and it seemed more like the kind of thing Rika would come up with than Dugan. But if you get a doublevote, the likelihood of two of them seems low. And I think the likelihood Dugan is lying is lower than the likelihood of the mason being a scum.
Shiri2009-04-30 14:11:27
err higher
kiriwe2009-04-30 14:16:45
Yeah.. plus, a dietician doesn't normally want you to get fatter, so that seems odd as well
Vote: Dugan
Vote: Dugan
Shiri2009-04-30 14:37:17
Throwing this out before I go to bed:
Alive
C - Daganev (proven deadline forcer) <-- definitely town
D - Dugan (claims double vote) <-- probably scum
E - Solanis (claims roleblocker) <-- probably town unless we don't have one
H - Tekora (claims vanilla) <-- probably scum
J - Jack (proven 1x daykill) <-- could go either way, low priority
L - Shamarah (proven cop) <-- definitely town
N - Arix (claimed vig) <-- probably telling truth
R - Kiriwe (claims reporter) <-- uncertain
S - Shiri (proven scholar) <-- almost definitely town
T - Saaga (claims investigator) <-- in need of checking out by Kiriwe if Kiriwe is telling truth
V - Archer (proven VP, double vote) <-- almost definitely town
Z - Shaddus (claims zookeeper) <-- probably scum depending on mafia size
Alive
C - Daganev (proven deadline forcer) <-- definitely town
D - Dugan (claims double vote) <-- probably scum
E - Solanis (claims roleblocker) <-- probably town unless we don't have one
H - Tekora (claims vanilla) <-- probably scum
J - Jack (proven 1x daykill) <-- could go either way, low priority
L - Shamarah (proven cop) <-- definitely town
N - Arix (claimed vig) <-- probably telling truth
R - Kiriwe (claims reporter) <-- uncertain
S - Shiri (proven scholar) <-- almost definitely town
T - Saaga (claims investigator) <-- in need of checking out by Kiriwe if Kiriwe is telling truth
V - Archer (proven VP, double vote) <-- almost definitely town
Z - Shaddus (claims zookeeper) <-- probably scum depending on mafia size
Daganev2009-04-30 14:56:25
Why would an upgrade to health upgrade the student? Wouldn't that be an upgrade to education?
I'm willing to vote for either tekora or dugan, so what's the vote count... and Shamarah what did you figure out night 0?
I'm willing to vote for either tekora or dugan, so what's the vote count... and Shamarah what did you figure out night 0?
Daganev2009-04-30 14:57:13
Oh, and how is archer "proven" we just have nobody contradicting him
Shiri2009-04-30 16:12:37
QUOTE (daganev @ Apr 30 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and how is archer "proven" we just have nobody contradicting him
You'd think if there was a real VP, which no one has claimed, they would jump on Archer for being a lying scumbag...that's basically the same thing. He's Othero's mason. He could still technically be scum, but we have better options first.
As for why health affected me, it was because I copied Casilu's power I guess. Maybe education would have done something for me before I copied her, idk.
Anyway, ended up staying up playing SWR, but g'night!
Tekora2009-04-30 22:17:50
QUOTE (Shiri @ Apr 30 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
S - Shiri (proven scholar) <-- almost definitely town
Just found this funny. Don't mind me. Just remember it when you people lynch me and prove that I'm town.
Daganev2009-04-30 22:20:16
QUOTE (Tekora @ Apr 30 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just found this funny. Don't mind me. Just remember it when you people lynch me and prove that I'm town.
You do realize Shiri is looking to lynch Dugan, correct?
Tekora2009-04-30 22:22:07
Nah, I've mostly stopped paying attention. If I live through today and tonight I might start paying attention again.
Shaddus2009-04-30 22:28:17
QUOTE (Tekora @ Apr 30 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just found this funny. Don't mind me. Just remember it when you people lynch me and prove that I'm town.
If the next person lynched is townie, and Shiri gave them the same witch hunt he's given me, I say we lynch him. He's WAY too defensive, and doesn't seem to want to admit that he isn't "proven townie" merely because he posts it on a list.
Somewhat editing Shiri's post, this is my list.
C - Daganev (proven deadline forcer)
D - Dugan (claims double vote)
E - Solanis (claims roleblocker) <-- probably town unless we don't have one
H - Tekora (claims vanilla)
J - Jack (proven 1x daykill) <-- could go either way, low priority
L - Shamarah (proven cop) <-- definitely town
N - Arix (claimed vig) <-- probably telling truth
R - Kiriwe (claims reporter) <-- uncertain
S - Shiri (claimed scholar)
T - Saaga (claims investigator) <-- in need of checking out by Kiriwe if Kiriwe is telling truth
V - Archer (proven VP, double vote) <-- almost definitely town
Z - Shaddus (claims zookeeper)
Daganev2009-04-30 22:30:07
QUOTE (Tekora @ Apr 30 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, I've mostly stopped paying attention. If I live through today and tonight I might start paying attention again.
umm why?
Daganev2009-04-30 22:31:34
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Apr 30 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the next person lynched is townie, and Shiri gave them the same witch hunt he's given me, I say we lynch him. He's WAY too defensive, and doesn't seem to want to admit that he isn't "proven townie" merely because he posts it on a list.
I can agree with that.
However, I'm sure shiri is marking himself as "probabbly townie" because of the fact that he ressed Shamarah.... Who still hasn't told us what he found out night 0!!!!
Shaddus2009-04-30 22:33:38
QUOTE (daganev @ Apr 30 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can agree with that.
However, I'm sure shiri is marking himself as "probabbly townie" because of the fact that he ressed Shamarah.... Who still hasn't told us what he found out night 0!!!!
However, I'm sure shiri is marking himself as "probabbly townie" because of the fact that he ressed Shamarah.... Who still hasn't told us what he found out night 0!!!!
True. That doesn't seem very scummy. Smokescreen or not, I still say we keep an eye on him.
And we also can't dismiss the idea that if Shiri is scum, Shiri could have ressed him AS scum.
Arix2009-04-30 22:34:34
there is such thing as a scum rezzer