Unknown2009-05-12 21:14:41
If any one is soon to enter their Woman's Studies, I strongly suggest that you get the book called The Book of Lilith by Barbara Black Koltuv, Ph.D.
S.N.: 9 780892 540143
ISBN: 978-0-89254-014-3
2nd ISBN: 0-89254-014-1.
I came across this book when I subbed for a Woman's Studies class (HUM117/UWS229) a few weeks ago, and I've read it about seven times now. The mythology behind the heroine and/or evil creature known as Lilith is really mind opening, not to mention intriguing.
It is an incredible read, and it offers up several differing aspects of the feminine psyche as well as the plight of the every day common woman. Not only would it impress your professors, but it also gives a good introduction to the basis of Woman's Studies and the psychology behind the science from the perspective of a clinical psychiatrist.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Edit: I included a link where you can buy the book online at Amazon.com. If you place your mouse over the book title itself, it should take you there.
Second Edit: I forgot to mention that, at MSU, the Woman's Studies coursework uses a good chunk of work from this book and another seven books, which are all based off of mythological figures found in the ancient or "pre-civilized world". When I subbed, I was told to have them write a seventeen page paper on the first chapter alone. You'd also be saving at least a good 15% of your book fees if you bought the books yourself, this book being one of them. I know money is a big worry for a lot of incoming undergrads, so I thought I'd help take some of the stress away and just put this book out there.
This is also a good book for your philosophy majors, as well as world history majors.
S.N.: 9 780892 540143
ISBN: 978-0-89254-014-3
2nd ISBN: 0-89254-014-1.
I came across this book when I subbed for a Woman's Studies class (HUM117/UWS229) a few weeks ago, and I've read it about seven times now. The mythology behind the heroine and/or evil creature known as Lilith is really mind opening, not to mention intriguing.
It is an incredible read, and it offers up several differing aspects of the feminine psyche as well as the plight of the every day common woman. Not only would it impress your professors, but it also gives a good introduction to the basis of Woman's Studies and the psychology behind the science from the perspective of a clinical psychiatrist.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Edit: I included a link where you can buy the book online at Amazon.com. If you place your mouse over the book title itself, it should take you there.
Second Edit: I forgot to mention that, at MSU, the Woman's Studies coursework uses a good chunk of work from this book and another seven books, which are all based off of mythological figures found in the ancient or "pre-civilized world". When I subbed, I was told to have them write a seventeen page paper on the first chapter alone. You'd also be saving at least a good 15% of your book fees if you bought the books yourself, this book being one of them. I know money is a big worry for a lot of incoming undergrads, so I thought I'd help take some of the stress away and just put this book out there.
This is also a good book for your philosophy majors, as well as world history majors.
Ashteru2009-05-13 20:43:52
What...do you use this for? Woman's studies? Judging from the wikipedia entry it's...propaganda for women?
Ok, I like women too, but, making a whole course out of it? O.o
Ok, I like women too, but, making a whole course out of it? O.o
Daganev2009-05-13 20:48:22
Where is the manly studies class?
Noola2009-05-13 20:51:19
QUOTE (daganev @ May 13 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where is the manly studies class?
Woodshop?
Ashteru2009-05-13 21:02:38
After buying the Book of Lilith, I suggest buying this as well, to counterbalance that much female essence.
Buyers callled it "a book that states the cold, hard facts about what makes a man a "Man."", and teachers all across the world say this: Give this book to every male student and teach them how to be men! Then, and only then, should they learn the junk forced upon them everyday.
It gets my stamp of approval. It won't net you scholarships or anything fancy like that, but hey, it teaches you how to be a man. Boo-yah
Buyers callled it "a book that states the cold, hard facts about what makes a man a "Man."", and teachers all across the world say this: Give this book to every male student and teach them how to be men! Then, and only then, should they learn the junk forced upon them everyday.
It gets my stamp of approval. It won't net you scholarships or anything fancy like that, but hey, it teaches you how to be a man. Boo-yah
Diamondais2009-05-13 21:05:11
QUOTE (daganev @ May 13 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where is the manly studies class?
The rest of history courses?
(I by no means really think this)
Narsrim2009-05-13 21:08:06
QUOTE (Ashteru @ May 13 2009, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What...do you use this for? Woman's studies? Judging from the wikipedia entry it's...propaganda for women?
Ok, I like women too, but, making a whole course out of it? O.o
Ok, I like women too, but, making a whole course out of it? O.o
Not just a whole course but a whole field of study. You can earn degrees in Women's Studies - like you can in most minority groups.
Ashteru2009-05-13 21:11:01
And what are you/ do you know/ are useful for when you are a Bachelor/Master of Woman's studies?
EDIT: It's about as useful as philosophy, I guess?
EDIT: It's about as useful as philosophy, I guess?
Daganev2009-05-13 21:11:13
QUOTE (diamondais @ May 13 2009, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The rest of history courses?
(I by no means really think this)
(I by no means really think this)
I don't think I've ever seen a history course discuss the pressures society places on men to be "manly" Maybe I went to the wrong school.
Furien2009-05-13 21:11:59
QUOTE (daganev @ May 13 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think I've ever seen a history course discuss the pressures society places on men to be "manly" Maybe I went to the wrong school.
Try "Gay Studies"
Daganev2009-05-13 21:13:48
touche!
Narsrim2009-05-13 21:18:55
QUOTE (Ashteru @ May 13 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And what are you/ do you know/ are useful for when you are a Bachelor/Master of Woman's studies?
EDIT: It's about as useful as philosophy, I guess?
EDIT: It's about as useful as philosophy, I guess?
It's actually a fairly decent degree because it's so politically savvy at the moment. I know a lot of people who majored in it because they liked the courses, took additional courses on top of them, and used it as an awesome springboard into law school or medical school because it really stands out from the typical political science/biology majors.
It's not something most people major into to end up with a career in unless they want to go down the education route, but I suppose technically you could use it to get into civil rights, lobby/activist groups, etc.
Ashteru2009-05-13 21:22:07
Isn't it just about women's stand in politics or something? How does that make you political savy? It sounds more like it would make most female participants bitter.
Daganev2009-05-13 21:23:12
QUOTE (Narsrim @ May 13 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's actually a fairly decent degree because it's so politically savvy at the moment.
Translation: What you know doesn't matter.
Daganev2009-05-13 21:24:41
QUOTE (Ashteru @ May 13 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't it just about women's stand in politics or something? How does that make you political savy? It sounds more like it would make most female participants bitter.
It's popular, and is "in", it doesn't make you politically savvy, it just is savvy. Its one of the nice large warning lights that higher education is more about your politics than your knowledge.
Narsrim2009-05-13 21:26:39
QUOTE (Ashteru @ May 13 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't it just about women's stand in politics or something? How does that make you political savy? It sounds more like it would make most female participants bitter.
Throughout history, in past politics, in future politics, in the world at large, in society, in the future! It's about women past, present, and future. It has a focus on teaching awareness, and generally ensuring the overall fair equal treatment/potential for women at large.
Narsrim2009-05-13 21:29:58
QUOTE (daganev @ May 13 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's popular, and is "in", it doesn't make you politically savvy, it just is savvy. Its one of the nice large warning lights that higher education is more about your politics than your knowledge.
When I say "politically savvy" I'm referencing the usual politics for medical/law schools. There is no real denying the field itself, I just find it looks good on paper when apply with thousands of other people for a few select spots when in addition to the average you stand out with something like a degree in Women's Studies (or Dance or Russian or whatever) than the typical PoliSci/Bio degrees.
Daganev2009-05-13 21:38:09
QUOTE (Narsrim @ May 13 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I say "politically savvy" I'm referencing the usual politics for medical/law schools. There is no real denying the field itself, I just find it looks good on paper when apply with thousands of other people for a few select spots when in addition to the average you stand out with something like a degree in Women's Studies (or Dance or Russian or whatever) than the typical PoliSci/Bio degrees.
Ok, I thought you meant a woman studies degree -instead of- a bio degree or something relevant to medical/law school. not in addition to.
Narsrim2009-05-13 21:41:23
Most medical schools have a set list of stuff you have to have to apply. What I was referring to is people who pick major X plus additionally do stuff Y so they stand out from the crowd.
I have classmates who have like Dance degrees. They just took the other stuff (all the bio, chemistry, etc) required as electives. My point was that when you apply, it just stands out when you have a degree like Women's Studies versus say Biology, which is a dime-a-dozen degree.
I have classmates who have like Dance degrees. They just took the other stuff (all the bio, chemistry, etc) required as electives. My point was that when you apply, it just stands out when you have a degree like Women's Studies versus say Biology, which is a dime-a-dozen degree.
Chade2009-05-13 23:44:27
I still find some aspects of the US education system mind boggling. It seems so general when compared to the UK system - we begin specialising at 16, switching from 9-13 subjects e to 3-4 subjects. At bachelors level we pick one subject, then Masters/PhD we specialise in one specific area of our subject. I'm certainly not trying to argue that our system is better, just pointing out the inherent differences, the prospect of doing Chemistry or Biology modules as part of a Dance Degree seems strange to my Old World eyes.
I'm doing a BA Hons in Archaeology and History, my intention for my MA is to specialise in Maritime Archaeology, I'm able to bend my BA to fit this pattern by discussing research topics and getting involved with Maritime Archaeology organisations here in the UK and in the US. I'm hoping that my PhD, when I finally get around to doing it in 2-3 years time, will be based on the archaeology of slave ships. Specifically ones plying the Middle Passage before th 1807 ruling that abolished the trade in slaves (although not slavery).
Does this degree of specialisation exist in the US system at Bachelors level or is it mainly at postgrad level?
I'm doing a BA Hons in Archaeology and History, my intention for my MA is to specialise in Maritime Archaeology, I'm able to bend my BA to fit this pattern by discussing research topics and getting involved with Maritime Archaeology organisations here in the UK and in the US. I'm hoping that my PhD, when I finally get around to doing it in 2-3 years time, will be based on the archaeology of slave ships. Specifically ones plying the Middle Passage before th 1807 ruling that abolished the trade in slaves (although not slavery).
Does this degree of specialisation exist in the US system at Bachelors level or is it mainly at postgrad level?