I believe Siam was merely under the impression that Perfect Fifth was supposed to stop the target from leaving the room, though apparently if you somersault or tumble out before getting hit by perfect fifth, your enemy simply wasted power. I myself thought that upon hearing it, you would not be able to leave the room, apparently it does not apply if you executed a command that already has you on the move like tumble/somersault. Perhaps this could use some changing? Though I am sure most of you will be against it...
If this is how tumble and somersault is designed however, hopefully once tumbled or somersaulted playing perfectfifth will not consume any power anymore and prompt a different message... I could understand the bards' frustration over this

That's what I've been saying/showing. The logs have been to clear up the confusion surrounding this.

@Siam
Somersault is just a faster tumble, all the same restrictions apply.

What I'm saying is that you don't need to follow each blank note with a perfect fifth. You perfect fifth once and until your opponent leaves they will always be afflicted with it, deafness only puts the affliction into remission, as soon as you blanknote, they can't start any ability that will cause them to leave the room.

However, if the target is deaf then they can start to leave the room. They can walk out, tumble out, somersault out etc. Even if this is delayed. If you see them start to tumble, rather than wasting time and power, just web them or hinder them in any way.

you start tumbling while deaf
-bard blanknotes you, followed by perfectfifth
you still get out of the room

You prepare yourself to somersault to the east.
3676h, 4836m, 5592e, 10p, 14014en, 22240w e-

Eula points a beryl sun ring at you, and sparks fly out of it.
Sticky strands of webbing spray out to cover you.
3676h, 4836m, 5592e, 10p, 14024en, 22240w ep-

Your somersault takes you out of the room.

Report #98 Skillset: Acrobatics Skill: Springup
Guild: Serenguard Status: Approved Dec 2008
Problem: Springup is currently doable with a broken and mangled leg (doesn't
work with amputate/tendon, though). You can't stand normally with these
afflictions, and there's no reason that springup ought to be any different from
stand aside from the fact that you can do it offbalance

Solution #1: Make springup unable to be done with a broken/mangled leg
Solution #2:
Solution #3: Provide a solution here.

Player Comments:
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98 Solution 2 is overpowered.

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Solution 2 appended to be more balanced
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...which is what I would say if I were allowed to edit it after finalizing, but
I can't, so damn.
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I'm fine with springup not working with a mangled leg. It works with a broken
leg because you use your arms to spring up or something, and it hasn't been a
problem afaik so I don't see a need to change that.
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That's shoddy logic at best. As said, there's no reason why springup should be
better than stand aside from the fact that you can do it offbalance.
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I've no qualms with SpringUp being tweaked to actually do what it's supposed to
be only doing, not more.
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Yep, should only be offbalance stand limited by all the afflictions that stand
is limited by. Solution 1 should include hemiplegy, shattered ankles, pierced
legs (on a % chance like stand), and anything else I'm forgetting too
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Hm, I didn't think to check those affs, if it's true that you -can- springup
from those, please make you unable to springup with those affs as well, Furies
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Standing off-balance is a pretty good advantage all by itself.
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This suggestion seems perfectly fair
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I don't think you should be able to no matter what balance you have. Solution
one seems more reasonable.
Furies' Decision:
Approved.

@Alef webbing does NOT stop tumbling once it started either... from my experience only stunning... and with proper timing, stops tumbling, though I used to think that perfectfifth did so too... apparently I'm wrong, or there's a flaw somewhere.

I'm a Bard, and I don't see any reason for this change. You shouldn't be using perfect fifth after they've started to tumble it makes no sense, and there are other ways to stop them leaving without using power.

@Siam: No he means deaf there. You can leave the room if you are deaf.

Barrier, Pinleg, and Crucify are the only skills that stop tumble after it's started. I think putting to sleep does as well though I've never tested this personally. Shafts could stop tumble if you're real lucky and it ticks at the right time.

He was blanknoted, and thus stripped of deafness, it's not logical to render him(or anyone) immune to the effect of perfectfifth just because he already started tumbling.

Well, logically if you are deaf and can't hear music and you start to tumble, being undeaf is not going to stop you from finishing your tumble. It doesn't throw rewind on and make you stand back where you just were. Your tumble is going to complete one way or another unless maybe you fall on your ass somewhere along the way.

Should of just chased him into the next room, unless he kept tumbling (I wasn't there to see), because he was quicksanded for 14 seconds so wasn't leaving the room he tumbled into... unless again... he kept tumbling.