We have always wanted more admin direction, if I read back about the even one of the chief complaints was that the supernals did not tell them what to do. But that is not exactly what I am saying, I'm saying is that people should be made aware an event is unfolding, be it by innane ramblings of supernals on city aethers or Meleris getting worked up about a way to cure Raziela, a guard off hand complaining about escort duty for a council member.

The onus is on the initial group of people for that.

As I recall, they wanted to keep it quiet, and see how that turned out.

Sorry, I just don't agree with suspending Avenger or grace. Regarding who knows what's going on or not, I completely disagree that it should always be noticeable to everyone (at least initially). There can be a variety of reasons that only a few people see or hear or come across certain events, and in many cases that's how events start (with a few people). How those people react often sets the tone for the event. (Of course, some events make sense that everyone knows but a lot of times it does not.)

I certainly do agree that it would be nice if there were more admin to oversee an event! I can't say more than that, but, ah, if only you knew what it was like on the other side of the curtain... oh, wait, there's an ephemeral call on!

I want to be a mortal builder and help in one way or another, why oh why am I still 17?

How about a system of diminishing returns/losses for repeating the same org conflict quest within a certain time frame?

Eventually the risk/opportunity cost will outweigh the reward and there will be some time for the other org to "ripen" so to speak.

Ah, the joys of mortal building. Pity I have no knack for room descriptions at all and would most likely OCD out on HELP scrolls and beast descriptions before actually doing what I'm supposed to be doing, thus resulting in me never actually applying. -sniff-

The biggest incentive I find for conflict quests that hurt organizations is power. The biggest reason to hoard power is vernal ascendants. I pretty much foresaw this with the coming of Vernal Ascendants. But, as it is too late to really go back on the whole Vernal Ascendant deal, we can only really move on and discuss other options. In the end, things will be fine with or without serious change to the current system.

@Malicia and Anisu
I'll repeat what I said earlier for you two. It is not possible for a single colossus to destroy a construct without anyone guarding the construct. Keep in mind that single does not include hoards of bombardments (which do less than 5% but more than 4% with a full 10 negative focusers). With 10 focusers, a single colossus can do .3% damage to a construct per hit. I'd go more in depth with the numbers, but I don't think you care to read it. Basically, what Estarra said in the past to what you both reference holds true.

A whole armada of ships plus a colossus can destroy a construct as there is no cap to the number of ships that can bombard.

Also, multiple colossus can destroy an undefended construct.

I personally don't see anything wrong with the system so far. We performed a realisticly possible (though rare) upper end of the spectrum attack. Potentially, it is possible for an attack to be even more overwhelming if three organizations were to attack one.

Isune's not inactive, Narsrim. Her weekly hours average is only one hour less than mine.

Possibly she doesn't interact with you specifically. Possibly you don't share the same online periods. But she's definitely here.

I knoooow. I'm too attached to my player friends to try and apply for Ephemeral, but I'd like to be a builder.

Oh well, two months to wait isn't that bad.

Don't poof on the Order! You're like a cornerstone. What about the Library?! And books, and Culture...

Anyway, I have to wait for 6 months before I'm even qualified to apply

I wasn't going to poof! I was going to apply to write rooms as a mortal builder, silly.

I am relieved.

Tbh, as much as I love Eventru's RP, it's almost bully-like. I can see Isune not posting just because she's a timid creation goddess, and she feels like she'll be shouted down by the big, macho, first circle Exalted Lord. And funny thing is, even if she does post, it's fully within Eventru's RP to try and denounce any fluffy, peaceful, vaguely conciliatory things she says. Of course, it's all "still up to the players"...but when you have such a prominent, loud, zealous god leading Celest, it's gonna be difficult to squeeze the other gods in.

I think it's been fairly well established that going aginst gods is something players balk at doing, and often for good reason.

Edit: this was in response to a post Narsrim made that he deleted. Meh.

Psh Eventru is not that scary. Nor does he control anything. I like that he's involved. Says a lot about him when you compare that to other Gods that do nothing at all. What's wrong with an aggressive opinion? In the end, players will do what they want. I wish E's 'bully' like nature could force the snuggly Celestians to get off their rear and help out more.

I can sum up my current apathy in two pictures:

Cheering isn't need on every post....

This is actually kinda cool, I love when aetherspace is put to use. Sucks that you got all your constructs destroyed but really, how often does this kinda thing happen?

EDIT: I May have been confusing your cheers on lack of raves.

Why put a cap on how many ships can bombard...seriously? If we get a cap put on what we can do, then there is no longer a point in doing it, THUS discouraging aetherspace even more. As for the snuggly Celestians, Malicia, who freaking cares? I still can't believe you booted someone for hanging out with a friend talking in OOC! But wait, who cares what anybody else thinks in Celest? All about what the La'Saets say and all bow down to Eventru!

Cry moar, newbie. That person got booted because someone stated over an official -council- clan that said person was informing an enemy of plans being made over CT. I'm not in the habit of randomly kicking people out of orgs, so you can take your forum vendetta somewhere else.

I can vouch for this.

I've never seen Malicia go hardass on someone IG unless they've done something seriously wrong. Like "wtf were you thinking?" wrong. And at that point, almost any other official in Celest would have done the same thing.

Who's crying? Really? All I hear is other people whining about capping how many ships can bombard, and how not fair it is. And honestly, people buy manses and invest so much into them, because they're supposed to be private. Both of those people AGREED discussions were OOC. Therefore, no one, not even Eventru, had the right to bring OOC into IC. As for forum vendetta, I'm out to get no one, especially from Celest - you destroy yourselves well enough without my help.