Springtrap chains into pit/blackout/grapple, yay. I love excuses to do things beside play Lusternia all day.

One would expect it to work the other way around.

Don't forget truss + toadcurse + stomp while you are still in the pit. Hopefully, the administration take the log of that I sent them seriously.

Though one wonders why is pit only a more obvious problem now. Assuming you guys are complaining about pits, and not the cluster...mess that is group combat.

I am sure you can see how toadcursing -and- stomping someone in a pit is an issue without it being spelled out to you.

Probably the same problem as say, crucifying someone in a pit or meld effects hitting someone in a pit then. I'm sure those are being remembered too.

Are you seriously trying to compare absolutely no way to escape an instakill whatsoever with... meld effects?

I admit, I don't, it's just like toadcursing and stomping someone in an icewalled room to me. Or any other instakill + pit problem.

Edit: I mean, if toadcurse in a pit is a problem, surely absolve/wrack in a pit is equally troubling. So is behead/web/pit or any other group combat scenario that involves pits, eh.

The Akuirage was no less then!

Actually, it was way, way more, as I'm sure people who heard it and a certain forgiving administratix can attest.

But other things being stupid doesn't make the thing in question any less stupid.

Of course, an ascendant fueled megazerg killing the same handful of people every day, for the last six months or so is it's own special little pile of "probably detrimental to the game at this point". Just another reason not to actively fight.

I am thoroughly enjoying being a Warrior again and planning out what I intend to do.

Apparently you missed the emphasis on the word 'and' that went with -and- stomping. Of the three things there one of those things is not like the others, I wonder if it could be the one that means... you can't do a thing to escape no matter what... cause what's that Lassie? Timmy fell in a hole and can't get out... because he is a toad?

Heck, let's just put back pinleg in pits if we are going to just arbitrarily defend lame things that should be fixed.

edit:: If it wasn't so assured of success it would see far less use. Not be the main tool in Glomdoring's arsenal.

Whoah dude's hand is on fire. That is OP.

WHO LIKES FIERCE PUNCH, WE LIKE FIERCE PUNCH, DPM FIERCE PUNCH.

Whoa, I know pits are hilariously lame, I'm just saying the outcry hasn't been this loud about them ever. I'm not defending it at all and am more than willing to see it balanced.

I just want every other situation with pits properly acknowledged, that's all.

P.S. I thought the main tool in our arsenal was choke and only choke.

Poor tracking. It's both disgustingly broken and uniquely cruddy at the same time.

and regarding choke- nah. Glom has far too many awesome skills for choke to be the only tool.

Well I could bring choke into this, having been choked in the pit as well. However my issue is with the fact that pits allow a completely inescapable scenario with toadcurse. The only counter to this is... don't fight at all. Soon as you see springtrap-pit going on head back down to prime, because you can't beat the pit-stomp.

<--wouldn't mind changing toadcurse with absolve if people not being able to climb out as a toad is a problem. I certainly have no problem with my instakill actually being..instantaneous.

Sure, but make harbinger double mana drain only affect the victims real drains, not drains forced on them. Make Haegle single sling only, and remove the crow mana instakill. I mean let's face reality here, giving multiple mana drains and a passive double mana drain skill to an org that has multiple guilds with a mana instakill is a little retarded in itself.

Eventru won't accept my slippers challenge.

Cant choke in a pit, turns out, it immediately drops