Unknown2009-08-03 23:29:09
Kiradawea said your revivals might be temporary, so we ought to make the most of today.
Daganev2009-08-03 23:31:00
hmm, reducing my numbers by 2 makes this much more risky.
Still, is there any reasons not to do what I suggested?
Still, is there any reasons not to do what I suggested?
Unknown2009-08-04 01:15:02
pretty much confirmed town:
Myrkr
Noola
Kiradawea
Dugan
Siam
Daganev
Diamondais
is really town darn it:
Xikue
suspicious people:
Shamarah
AllergictoSabres
Shiri
What next day might look like, with the following assumptions:
- Daganev and Diamondais aren't here the next day
- I'm day-killed today
+ a suspicious person is lynched
- they manage a night-kill, and Diamondais is unable to make a night-kill
leaving us with 4 pretty much confirmed townies and 2 suspicious people to deal with. It'll be a win for town as long as something else doesn't come up.
Myrkr
Noola
Kiradawea
Dugan
Siam
Daganev
Diamondais
is really town darn it:
Xikue
suspicious people:
Shamarah
AllergictoSabres
Shiri
What next day might look like, with the following assumptions:
- Daganev and Diamondais aren't here the next day
- I'm day-killed today
+ a suspicious person is lynched
- they manage a night-kill, and Diamondais is unable to make a night-kill
leaving us with 4 pretty much confirmed townies and 2 suspicious people to deal with. It'll be a win for town as long as something else doesn't come up.
Unknown2009-08-04 01:19:01
That was not the best-case scenario, of course.
Daganev2009-08-04 01:26:46
Kira's ability would be really crappy if diamondais isn't able to use her ability at night.
But you are right that might happen.
Now what power did ATS claim?
But you are right that might happen.
Now what power did ATS claim?
Shamarah2009-08-04 02:05:16
I am confirmed non-scum
not that I'm really playing this game anymore
not that I'm really playing this game anymore
Diamondais2009-08-04 02:27:02
Sure, whatever or whomever you want me to kill tonight if I can.
Daganev2009-08-04 02:32:37
Xikue, I just want to get a confirmation from you that you are OK with me daykilling you, and if you turn up town we lynch Shiri.
Shiri, would you agree with this?
Shiri, would you agree with this?
Unknown2009-08-04 02:42:36
Yeah. Go town! *salutes*
Shiri2009-08-04 03:48:04
It's never really useful to put people in that position, since townies can always be wrong. But I will full roleclaim if she's town.
Unknown2009-08-04 04:07:34
QUOTE (daganev @ Aug 4 2009, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now what power did ATS claim?
I've never claimed a power because... well, I don't have one. So I'll agree on the useful scale, I'm down there.
If according to your list there are five people you aren't sure are town, it's a bit of a dice roll. There should only be two scummy people left from what we know. The risk lies in that if myself AND Xikue both turn up town, it becomes a very precarious position because you're losing two town outright, plus possibly more to night kills.
Xikue is freakin' me out now because she's become resigned, so I might be thinking she's town... it's hard to tell because this game has gone on so long.
Shiri2009-08-04 04:10:15
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Aug 4 2009, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never claimed a power because... well, I don't have one. So I'll agree on the useful scale, I'm down there.
!!!!!
Do not believe. There are no other vanillas in this game so far are there? Highly suspicious!
Unknown2009-08-04 04:19:02
QUOTE (Shiri @ Aug 3 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's never really useful to put people in that position, since townies can always be wrong. But I will full roleclaim if she's town.
You're just saying that so you have something to fall back on either way. */parroting*
And we had a vanilla Edward Elric.
Shiri2009-08-04 04:24:21
Oh wait, yeah. My bad.
Still, there's got to be one scum left after you and unless it's Siam for this Near-Mello connection I'm not seeing a whole lot of options.
As for the first par...well, yeah. There's no point lynching me if you're town - particularly if Daganev's and Diamondais' revival is temporary - since then you'll just lose to the remaining two scum. It's not like it's early-game where we can afford to concede to a gambit like that in order to trade a roleblocker or something for a scum. Trying to put townies in that position is a common scum move. I can only assume Daganev's doing it because he hasn't thought it out at all.
Still, there's got to be one scum left after you and unless it's Siam for this Near-Mello connection I'm not seeing a whole lot of options.
As for the first par...well, yeah. There's no point lynching me if you're town - particularly if Daganev's and Diamondais' revival is temporary - since then you'll just lose to the remaining two scum. It's not like it's early-game where we can afford to concede to a gambit like that in order to trade a roleblocker or something for a scum. Trying to put townies in that position is a common scum move. I can only assume Daganev's doing it because he hasn't thought it out at all.
Daganev2009-08-04 04:34:55
normally I would kill alergictosabres but since xikue can roleblock, she can stop diamondais from vigging someone, if she is scum.
Does anyone have an alternative plan?
2 of the people who might be scum have stopped playing the game, which makes this all rather dubious.
Does anyone have an alternative plan?
2 of the people who might be scum have stopped playing the game, which makes this all rather dubious.
Shiri2009-08-04 04:37:44
On the other hand, the fact Casilu hasn't modkilled them might mean something.
Shiri2009-08-04 04:38:12
Although I still don't think Shamarah is that likely to be scum with Dugan's assertion.
Kiradawea2009-08-04 06:00:03
I'm still hoping we can trade out three inactives for an active.
Incidentally, I keep forgetting how Dugan and his investigation works. Was it limited? And did Siam investigate tonight? Basically, do we have any investigations to go after?
Incidentally, I keep forgetting how Dugan and his investigation works. Was it limited? And did Siam investigate tonight? Basically, do we have any investigations to go after?
Shiri2009-08-04 06:25:47
Dugan confirmed you before you did your rezz thing, so that wasn't helpful but whatever. Siam, uh, I forget.
Unknown2009-08-04 06:25:55
Yeah, see I think we're in a somewhat unfair position with the inactives being as one or two of them could be scum for all we know. It's hard to mount an argument against them when they're not going to talk, and it's hard to lynch them because they're not talking either.
Oh, and Shiri, seriously I'm vanilla, which his made me feel utterly useless this whole 100 pages. I get to guess who's guilty, and then be sad or happy. I was going to reveal my non-power role before when I role claimed, but since no one had an issue with not knowing at the time, I figured it'd be best to leave the scum wondering. Since daganev is (rightfully) having a hard time deciding who to go for, I thought I may as well lay out all the facts so he can make the best decision.
Oh, and Shiri, seriously I'm vanilla, which his made me feel utterly useless this whole 100 pages. I get to guess who's guilty, and then be sad or happy. I was going to reveal my non-power role before when I role claimed, but since no one had an issue with not knowing at the time, I figured it'd be best to leave the scum wondering. Since daganev is (rightfully) having a hard time deciding who to go for, I thought I may as well lay out all the facts so he can make the best decision.