Shiri2009-08-04 06:35:03
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Aug 4 2009, 07:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, see I think we're in a somewhat unfair position with the inactives being as one or two of them could be scum for all we know. It's hard to mount an argument against them when they're not going to talk, and it's hard to lynch them because they're not talking either.
Oh, and Shiri, seriously I'm vanilla, which his made me feel utterly useless this whole 100 pages. I get to guess who's guilty, and then be sad or happy. I was going to reveal my non-power role before when I role claimed, but since no one had an issue with not knowing at the time, I figured it'd be best to leave the scum wondering. Since daganev is (rightfully) having a hard time deciding who to go for, I thought I may as well lay out all the facts so he can make the best decision.
Oh, and Shiri, seriously I'm vanilla, which his made me feel utterly useless this whole 100 pages. I get to guess who's guilty, and then be sad or happy. I was going to reveal my non-power role before when I role claimed, but since no one had an issue with not knowing at the time, I figured it'd be best to leave the scum wondering. Since daganev is (rightfully) having a hard time deciding who to go for, I thought I may as well lay out all the facts so he can make the best decision.
Ed being vanilla adds some plausibility to the affair since there's almost never just one of those things, but if it's not you I'm stuck for figuring out who it is. Myrkr? Explains the non-modkill, but...rezzed Solanis, so idk. Shamarah? Highly unlikely with Dugan confirming him like that. Siam? Possible given the Mello thing, but at this point it's basically a cointoss as to whether the role we already know him to have (remember he did his restriction gimmick before Llandros did) is likelier to be town or scum. He was Mello's friend in the series IIRC, but that may or may not mean anything at all.
Unknown2009-08-04 06:44:46
I have to go to work, but if nothing has happened by the time I get home, I'm gonna go over Siam's stuff again.
Also, and this might be my faulty memory, but in the beginning didn't Myrkr say she had no idea what her phrases would do, but then when she rezzed Solanis she knew exactly what it would do? I'll have to look, maybe it went: Myrkr says phrase => Casi messaged her to give one name to res => Myrkr posted GIVE ME A NAME => then res. Bah, I'll have to find that, too.
Also, and this might be my faulty memory, but in the beginning didn't Myrkr say she had no idea what her phrases would do, but then when she rezzed Solanis she knew exactly what it would do? I'll have to look, maybe it went: Myrkr says phrase => Casi messaged her to give one name to res => Myrkr posted GIVE ME A NAME => then res. Bah, I'll have to find that, too.
Shiri2009-08-04 07:25:33
It did go like that.
Daganev2009-08-04 16:13:25
No more ideas from anyone?
Daganev2009-08-04 16:18:03
Ok, so what exactly is our evidence on Siam?
Daganev2009-08-04 16:18:23
since he also appears MIA
Daganev2009-08-04 16:19:27
another quick question, what happened last night and did any of the scum kill people?
Meaning, can we assume our MIA people are not active scum because scum DID kill someone?
Meaning, can we assume our MIA people are not active scum because scum DID kill someone?
Shiri2009-08-04 16:28:05
QUOTE (daganev @ Aug 4 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another quick question, what happened last night and did any of the scum kill people?
Meaning, can we assume our MIA people are not active scum because scum DID kill someone?
Meaning, can we assume our MIA people are not active scum because scum DID kill someone?
Yeah, the scum killed Solanis last night (unless Myrkr's rezz only lasted 3 nights or something, but I doubt that and might be counting wrong anyway.) Xiran claimed to block Shamarah. Dugan investigated Kiradawea and said he believes her (before she pulled her rezz jutsu, not after, for what this is worth.) I don't understand how that's "meaning" but I don't think we can assume the MIA people aren't active scum - we know there are two people left, so if the godfather (e.g Xiran, hypothetically) was active the last person could still be scum.
As for Siam, he isn't really confirmed but like...basically, he was acting majorly scummy earlier, so after being called on it (and flipping out) he kept trying to insinuate that he couldn't claim - this was before it was revealed that Llandros' role was legitimately that, if I remember correctly. He also whiffed an investigate in the thread due to "misreading his role". Now that might have been a scum ploy, but the implication was that he was Llandros' backup cop. The character he would be in the scenario where he got powers on Llandros' death was a protagonist in the series they're from, but he was also a fellow orphan with Shaddus' scum role for a while so there's not really a lot to say either way there. Backup cop to Llandros fits what happened in that anime pretty well.
The problem is there's still no guarantee that it's a town power, but I think Myrkr or Allergic are better lynches than him for that reason. I'd understand if you disagreed seeing as we still have a working cop though. I don't think he's produced anything from last night though I could be wrong. Since Llandros results were worthless we might have to ignore them even if he did have them, but if he doesn't it's kinda weird.
Daganev2009-08-04 16:53:44
Man I wish I could daykill shiri right now...
Firstly, Shaddus was listed as the godfather on page 1.
Secondly, Llandro's results were not useless, just the numbers were. 5% town == town, 50% scum == scum. Just ignore the numbers and you have the correct asssestment.
So, where is siam and what were his results last night?
Firstly, Shaddus was listed as the godfather on page 1.
Secondly, Llandro's results were not useless, just the numbers were. 5% town == town, 50% scum == scum. Just ignore the numbers and you have the correct asssestment.
So, where is siam and what were his results last night?
Daganev2009-08-04 16:57:28
This is pointless. I really think shiri is the last scum. Anybody I day kill is going to come up town.
Shiri2009-08-04 17:04:08
QUOTE (daganev @ Aug 4 2009, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man I wish I could daykill shiri right now...
Firstly, Shaddus was listed as the godfather on page 1.
Secondly, Llandro's results were not useless, just the numbers were. 5% town == town, 50% scum == scum. Just ignore the numbers and you have the correct asssestment.
So, where is siam and what were his results last night?
Firstly, Shaddus was listed as the godfather on page 1.
Secondly, Llandro's results were not useless, just the numbers were. 5% town == town, 50% scum == scum. Just ignore the numbers and you have the correct asssestment.
So, where is siam and what were his results last night?
Daykilling me would be retarded not only for the obvious reasons but because there's no actual reason to anyway...
How on earth can you be sure that's the actual rule of Llandros' investigations and not just a coindicence? No one else has mentioned that before to my knowledge.
Shiri2009-08-04 17:04:30
...also there are two last scum, not just one, it says so in Shaddus' thing.
Shiri2009-08-04 17:06:21
coincidence* (tired, g'night)
Kiradawea2009-08-04 17:18:58
I did. It's why I focused on Shaddus remember? Okay, honestly here's my suggestion. DK Xiran, Lynch Shiri, Vig Siam. Between AtS and Siam, Siam is the most inactive one, thus it's better for the game health to get rid of him. Dia needs to vig someone tonight, so her rezz won't be in vain. I'm agreeing with Dag in that DKing Xiran is better than AtS and Siam due to the role-block. We are giving up on our only doctor, but we're running out of powers anyway, and said doctoring would just make the nightroles we have remaining useless anyway.
Vote: Shiri
Vote: Shiri
Daganev2009-08-04 17:50:43
QUOTE (Shiri @ Aug 4 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...also there are two last scum, not just one, it says so in Shaddus' thing.
As you said, Mello has 2 friends, Llandros and Siam.
Llandros turned up to be a towny, or to appear like a towny.
Siam might be too. This would be the situation of a limited mafia, where he must win with his partners, but only the godfather is scum.
But thats why I want to daykill Siam, except it makes sense to daykill Xikue incase I'm wrong.
So everyone is agreed that when xikue turns up town we lynch Shiri? I want to make sure we have the votes for that.
Unknown2009-08-04 23:14:37
My vote won't count when I'm dead, so yeah. Poke a few people and see if they'll agree to vote Shiri.
Daganev2009-08-04 23:16:01
What's the current vote count?
Unknown2009-08-05 00:01:46
QUOTE (Vote Count)
Xikue (3): Shiri, Dugan, AllergictoSabres
Shiri (3): Xikue, Daganev, Kiradawea
Shiri (3): Xikue, Daganev, Kiradawea
Daganev2009-08-05 00:09:28
So dugan and alergic, would you be willing to vote for shiri if Xikue comes up town?
Shiri2009-08-05 04:02:09
QUOTE (daganev @ Aug 4 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As you said, Mello has 2 friends, Llandros and Siam.
Wat. Firstly, it says he can talk to ___ and ___ at night. But it doesn't say in Llandros' role that he can talk back. Secondly, doesn't your earlier assumption all rest on the fact Llandros was town and his investigation was accurate?