Xavius2009-07-08 01:56:14
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 7 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So night one, there were three people who were roleblocked?
Why did you kill Ayisdra?
Why did you kill Ayisdra?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Only scum knows that Ayisdra wasn't scum killed. Furien did not volunteer this information.
Vote: Llandros
Dugan2009-07-08 01:58:36
This is worse than a spin of roulette at the moment with all the vote flipping. Though I do understand it.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kira.
She is one of a few people whom I forgot was playing this game, same with Shaddus and Noola.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kira.
She is one of a few people whom I forgot was playing this game, same with Shaddus and Noola.
Unknown2009-07-08 02:03:48
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 7 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Only scum knows that Ayisdra wasn't scum killed. Furien did not volunteer this information.
Vote: Llandros
Vote: Llandros
Furien volunteered it just a few posts before Llandros's question.
Xavius2009-07-08 02:15:27
I missed it in the double post. You're right.
Unvote: Llandros
Unvote: Llandros
Shiri2009-07-08 03:13:45
Man, this is all over the place. If we keep doing this we're going to have what's basically a mass roleclaim and I'm not sure we're ready for that!
Daganev2009-07-08 03:41:34
Its no where close to a mass roleclaim. If the odds are correct, we will get about 5 or 6 role claims maximum. (meaning one will goof up before then, since we are asking for roleclaims from targeted people) A mass roleclaim is very different.
Shiri2009-07-08 03:51:31
There actually aren't many characters we won't have roleclaims for by the end of it. I guess the danger is arguable with so many power roles out, but I'm not sure it's wise.
In any case, my gut is telling me Alianna is lying. I guess Kiriwe could have roleblocked him night 1, but it doesn't look like he even said who he tried to target. Also with Solanis, him and Llandros we have more roleblocks than I would like to expect going around, all in highly convenient ways. Llandros coming out with it immediately - and Furien not calling him on it, AND the Solanis deal - makes me think Llandros is more likely to be telling the truth than Furien, though we can't really rule out that they both are.
Leaving my vote where it is.
In any case, my gut is telling me Alianna is lying. I guess Kiriwe could have roleblocked him night 1, but it doesn't look like he even said who he tried to target. Also with Solanis, him and Llandros we have more roleblocks than I would like to expect going around, all in highly convenient ways. Llandros coming out with it immediately - and Furien not calling him on it, AND the Solanis deal - makes me think Llandros is more likely to be telling the truth than Furien, though we can't really rule out that they both are.
Leaving my vote where it is.
Daganev2009-07-08 03:53:19
good point about furien not calling llandros on the roleblock...
Furien, explain that one?
Furien, explain that one?
Shiri2009-07-08 03:54:04
I also find whoever's (Rika's?) point about Solanis' role being removed the first page really suspicious (not at Rika, at Solanis). So I'm going to have to ask Solanis to protect either Daganev or myself tonight - that way we can confirm you still have your powers and aren't an SK. Daganev is probably the better choice to protect, hopefully it'll get him his daykill back so we can reduce night exposure. Otherwise we might have to be really worried that you're an SK and take you out again.
Unknown2009-07-08 04:13:55
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 8 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also find whoever's (Rika's?) point about Solanis' role being removed the first page really suspicious (not at Rika, at Solanis). So I'm going to have to ask Solanis to protect either Daganev or myself tonight - that way we can confirm you still have your powers and aren't an SK. Daganev is probably the better choice to protect, hopefully it'll get him his daykill back so we can reduce night exposure. Otherwise we might have to be really worried that you're an SK and take you out again.
Yeah: there wasn't anything weird when Casilu sent the "you're alive" message to me. Either: I'm still the same, or somehow I've been mutated so I kill people instead of protecting people. Am planning to protect one of you two.
I don't think Furien is lying, mainly because of the speed of that bandwagon.
Furien2009-07-08 04:15:18
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 7 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
good point about furien not calling llandros on the roleblock...
Furien, explain that one?
Furien, explain that one?
I didn't get a message at all. No 'They resist your kill', 'You missed', 'You got stuffed in a murder bag' or anything like that. Just..nothing happened.
Shiri2009-07-08 04:15:48
"vig" is more of an SK claim than a mafia claim, so if he was lying it's probably the former rather than the latter, meaning the speed has nothing to do with it.
Shiri2009-07-08 04:17:23
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 8 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't get a message at all. No 'They resist your kill', 'You missed', 'You got stuffed in a murder bag' or anything like that. Just..nothing happened.
Backtracking! You know perfectly well it could be anything, like the 25% innate. Llandros claims to have known he was roleblocked. You say that A) you didn't and didn't find anything odd about the fact you were roleblocked silently and he wasn't - despite the fact you were convinced you were roleblocked rather than any of the other things.
Furien2009-07-08 04:21:38
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 7 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Backtracking! You know perfectly well it could be anything, like the 25% innate. Llandros claims to have known he was roleblocked. You say that A) you didn't and didn't find anything odd about the fact you were roleblocked silently and he wasn't - despite the fact you were convinced you were roleblocked rather than any of the other things.
My assumption was roleblock (or similar action) because prior to night one I wasn't aware that everyone had a 25% innate!
Also, how is that backtracking? You asked me why I didn't call him out on it, I just answered.
Shiri2009-07-08 04:21:54
QUOTE
You know what's horrible about big games where vanillas are a minority? It's hard to call someone out just because there's two of the same role. So, if it influences anyone, Furien is not the only town killer. Casilu mentioned there'd be much death, so Furien doesn't have my vote, but...well, killers in general are suspicious.
I also want to find out tomorrow (if Solanis turns out legit) what this meant of Xavius' given his earlier "Silferras did not target Solanis" claim, but we'll find more out about that at the time.
Shiri2009-07-08 04:24:11
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 8 2009, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My assumption was roleblock (or similar action) because prior to night one I wasn't aware that everyone had a 25% innate!
??? But it's not night 1 right now, when you just said it.
QUOTE
Also, how is that backtracking? You asked me why I didn't call him out on it, I just answered.
Because you claimed to have been roleblocked, then backed up into "I don't know if it was roleblocking or what."
Furien2009-07-08 04:29:47
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 7 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
??? But it's not night 1 right now, when you just said it.
Because you claimed to have been roleblocked, then backed up into "I don't know if it was roleblocking or what."
Because you claimed to have been roleblocked, then backed up into "I don't know if it was roleblocking or what."
I claimed to be roleblocked because my action didn't work.
And no, I said this thing in an earlier post, let me go find it.
Furien2009-07-08 04:31:39
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 5 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For what it's worth, I was blocked on night one as well. Chances are there is a real non-jailer roleblocker out there, or the scum have one.
Also, did anyone else notice how Shamarah sorta flew under the radar with his claim? He's the white spy from Spy vs. Spy. No 'I win with the town'.
Also, did anyone else notice how Shamarah sorta flew under the radar with his claim? He's the white spy from Spy vs. Spy. No 'I win with the town'.
Shiri2009-07-08 04:32:41
Ok, you just completely avoided the point, I think everyone else can see it though (or at least Daganev can) so let's just continue the lynch unless something better comes out.
Furien2009-07-08 04:35:41
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 7 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
??? But it's not night 1 right now, when you just said it.
QUOTE
And no, I said this thing in an earlier post, let me go find it.
(evidence here)
(evidence here)
QUOTE ( @ Jul 7 2009, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, you just completely avoided the point, I think everyone else can see it though (or at least Daganev can) so let's just continue the lynch unless something better comes out.