Unknown2009-07-29 16:28:57
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Jul 29 2009, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is it okay for you to roleclaim in the beginning, then suddenly it's something bad?
That's actually super simple to explain since you quoted me. You'll notice in the first quote I say, "I'm okay with a mass claim". Mass is the key word. When I started to get targeted specifically with no promise of information being given in return, I start getting suspicious. I'm still for a mass claim. If you all want to, lets go.
Kiradawea2009-07-29 16:31:32
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 24 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, stop voting for me
I'll save you the trouble. My name is L. I win with the town
The first two nights i tried to investigate Xavius but couldn't
then kira who came back as 78% good natured ninja
then shaddus who came back as 50% mafia, but then i used a power i have to get a confirmed role and he came back as mello
then rika who came back as 5% town
good luck!
I'll save you the trouble. My name is L. I win with the town
The first two nights i tried to investigate Xavius but couldn't
then kira who came back as 78% good natured ninja
then shaddus who came back as 50% mafia, but then i used a power i have to get a confirmed role and he came back as mello
then rika who came back as 5% town
good luck!
*shoot Shiri*
And frankly AtS. If you have nothing to hide in a mass-claim, then you should have nothing to hide in a single claim targetted at you as well.
Shiri2009-07-29 16:33:25
QUOTE
then kira who came back as 78% good natured ninja
then rika who came back as 5% town
Pertinent parts quoted this time...*shoots Kira back*
Shiri2009-07-29 16:33:55
Gah, damn formatting issues. Anyway, g'night.
Unknown2009-07-29 16:35:52
It's not about hiding anything from townies. It's all about giving up my information for whatever scum/SK's/anything else nefarious we haven't discovered yet so that they know exactly who I am without them at the very least having to make up a plausible lie about their role. If I just claim, they know everything about me, and we have still zero chance for trying to catch them up in a role lie.
Kiradawea2009-07-29 16:58:49
*kunai cut Shiri* The word indicator on both me and Rika was that we were referenced to with positive characteristics, while Shaddus was referenced to with a negative characteristic.
And there are only three others who haven't revealed their name yet. You won't be catching anyone with double-claims either, as we already have more than one investigator (Siam, Llandros, Dugan and Shaddus) and at least two boosters (Aerotan and Solanis).
And there are only three others who haven't revealed their name yet. You won't be catching anyone with double-claims either, as we already have more than one investigator (Siam, Llandros, Dugan and Shaddus) and at least two boosters (Aerotan and Solanis).
Unknown2009-07-29 17:26:48
QUOTE (AllergictoSabres @ Jul 29 2009, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not about hiding anything from townies. It's all about giving up my information for whatever scum/SK's/anything else nefarious we haven't discovered yet so that they know exactly who I am without them at the very least having to make up a plausible lie about their role. If I just claim, they know everything about me, and we have still zero chance for trying to catch them up in a role lie.
If what you are saying is true, it comes down to the order people massclaim in. Who would you rather go first?
Unknown2009-07-29 17:36:36
Well, order isn't important, really. If everyone who hasn't name claimed said "I'll do it" and then didn't when it was their turn, that'd be pretty damning.
But you know what, screw it, I'll claim. I'm Rukia Kuchiki.
But you know what, screw it, I'll claim. I'm Rukia Kuchiki.
Kiradawea2009-07-29 17:43:20
Good enough for me. Unvote
Siam2009-07-29 18:04:31
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Jul 30 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*shoot Shiri*
And frankly AtS. If you have nothing to hide in a mass-claim, then you should have nothing to hide in a single claim targetted at you as well.
And frankly AtS. If you have nothing to hide in a mass-claim, then you should have nothing to hide in a single claim targetted at you as well.
From that quote, I think Shaddus should be a good target.
VOTE: SHADDUS
Unknown2009-07-29 19:22:16
Can you clarify? I'm not making the mental leap between you quoting Kira trying to convince me to claim and Shaddus being a good target. I'm not saying he might not be, I'm just confused.
Kiradawea2009-07-29 19:38:55
QUOTE
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 24 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, stop voting for me
I'll save you the trouble. My name is L. I win with the town
The first two nights i tried to investigate Xavius but couldn't
then kira who came back as 78% good natured ninja
then shaddus who came back as 50% mafia, but then i used a power i have to get a confirmed role and he came back as mello
then rika who came back as 5% town
good luck!
I'll save you the trouble. My name is L. I win with the town
The first two nights i tried to investigate Xavius but couldn't
then kira who came back as 78% good natured ninja
then shaddus who came back as 50% mafia, but then i used a power i have to get a confirmed role and he came back as mello
then rika who came back as 5% town
good luck!
*shoot Shiri*
And frankly AtS. If you have nothing to hide in a mass-claim, then you should have nothing to hide in a single claim targetted at you as well.
Here's the whole quote, where I point out that Llandros got a positive characteristic in return when he investigated me and rika, and a negative characteristic when he investigated Shaddus.
Unknown2009-07-29 20:02:56
Oh, I see what you're saying now. I'm going to have to review his posts, but not tonight, I'm super tired!
Unknown2009-07-30 14:18:28
My only issues with what Llandros got back from investigating Shaddus:
1. Positive or negative wording, we have to assume those percentages are garbage. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't think they can give any indication on how likely someone is/isn't something.
2. It said 50% Shaddus is mafia. As far as I can tell so far, we've only had SKs, and the theory has been somewhat established that there might not be a mafia, just SKs. So, maybe his 50% mafia means 50% antagonists/anti-town, or maybe it's just to mislead.
1. Positive or negative wording, we have to assume those percentages are garbage. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I don't think they can give any indication on how likely someone is/isn't something.
2. It said 50% Shaddus is mafia. As far as I can tell so far, we've only had SKs, and the theory has been somewhat established that there might not be a mafia, just SKs. So, maybe his 50% mafia means 50% antagonists/anti-town, or maybe it's just to mislead.
Kiradawea2009-07-30 14:19:58
It may be. But frankly, Shaddus isn't really participating, it's a good enough hint as any that we have so far, and this day is starting to stretch into infinity. Vote: Shaddus
Shiri2009-07-30 14:33:13
Well, I was behind lynching Shaddus before and I still am, so I'll go ahead and unvote vote: shaddus. Still strongly we recommend we go for Xiran tomorrow though.
Shiri2009-07-30 14:34:59
Oh, but I don't think we should pay the percentages any heed, only the Mello result and behaviour throughout the game. (I don't think Kira is scum based on her result either, although her misrepresentation of the fact is still very worth noting.)
Unknown2009-07-30 14:41:40
Shaddus - TIMDN, Kiradawea, Shiri
Xiran (Xikue?) - Shiri
Shamarah - Xikue
AtS - Dugan
Can anyone see anyone's votes I'm missing? Was a proper mess when we didn't go to night after Llandros' death.
Xiran (Xikue?) - Shiri
Shamarah - Xikue
AtS - Dugan
Can anyone see anyone's votes I'm missing? Was a proper mess when we didn't go to night after Llandros' death.
Unknown2009-07-30 14:42:12
Gah, didn't catch before submit. Minus Shiri on the vote for Xikue. Sorry. :*(
Casilu2009-07-30 21:37:49
I'll do another activity check tomorrow morning, if I don't like what I see, you might be deadlined.