Merians as a racial choice

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Casilu2009-06-27 20:39:54
QUOTE (Allison @ Jun 27 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think that people that constantly lord over races and analyze them in detail just because they think one is "better" than the other are powergaming and min/maxing. Both of which are pretty stupid.


When you want to be involved in some combat, being able to survive more than 30 seconds becomes really important. Low con plus high damage from probably the highest damage inflicting class in the game means, as has happened to me before, being taken out in two or three comboes.
Furien2009-06-27 21:42:56
It was a bored attempt for my combatant self to bully your roleplaying self, get with the program. sad.gif
Celina2009-06-27 21:52:25
QUOTE (Allison @ Jun 27 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think that people that constantly lord over races and analyze them in detail just because they think one is "better" than the other are powergaming and min/maxing. Both of which are pretty stupid.


Sweet son of Mary, we get it. You don't like PK. You can really stop with the broken record routine.

Clearly, when the admin added a vast array of races with drastically varying stats to a game with a complex combat system, they wanted us to ignore all of it and pick what makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Shaddus2009-06-27 21:57:05
It's so romantic when trolls meet each other.
Lawliet2009-06-27 22:06:47
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Jun 27 2009, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's so romantic when trolls meet each other.


Oh, lord, think of the twisted hell-spawn those two would create... It'd be like... Jack.
Shaddus2009-06-27 22:20:37
QUOTE (Lawliet @ Jun 27 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, lord, think of the twisted hell-spawn those two would create... It'd be like... Jack.

Sweet baby Jesus preserve us.
Celina2009-06-27 22:29:02
I want to know when I got promoted to troll.

Last I heard I was just "bitch" or "whiner."
Shaddus2009-06-27 22:55:10
QUOTE (Celina @ Jun 27 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to know when I got promoted to troll.

Last I heard I was just "bitch" or "whiner."

2700 posts ago.
Casilu2009-06-27 22:57:38
QUOTE (Celina @ Jun 27 2009, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to know when I got promoted to troll.

Last I heard I was just "bitch" or "whiner."


I'm not even on this scale, feel lucky that you get promoted.
Celina2009-06-27 23:00:47
QUOTE (casilu @ Jun 27 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not even on this scale, feel lucky that you get promoted.


Well, as far as trolls go, I don't think I compare to like...Visaeris. That man has true talent.
Casilu2009-06-27 23:04:32
QUOTE (Celina @ Jun 27 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, as far as trolls go, I don't think I compare to like...Visaeris. That man has true talent.


I'm not even on that scale. I'm more like a low-level Noola-ite, at this point.
Damadreas2009-06-27 23:31:11
Some races will suck. It happens in every... game.. period. People will pick the things most efficient for their purposes within reason. End of story. E.g., I reincarnated into Lobo as a nekotai to help further my tankiness as I'm largely focused on bashing to 80+. I will likely buy a dagger to reincarnate to human once more 85+ for the exp bonus. God forbid I don't go Illithoid for RP purposes, woah is the basin?

I've RP'd in various formats for a long time and one thing I've noticed among IRE players is that a lot of them on the RP heavy side seem to take RP > Fun rather then Fun > RP side of things.

Deal with it?


The only particularly safe race all around is human. Always has been, basically. You can argue and min/max all you want about certain races for certain classes. But if we're going to whine, lets whine about how awesome and suited to do anything humans are without any penalties and need mad nerfing.
Nienla2009-06-27 23:52:04
Everiine2009-06-28 00:04:19
I cast Summon Bigger Fish!

Will that make Merian better?
Shaddus2009-06-28 00:04:32
Nienla wins the thread.
Unknown2009-06-28 00:09:14
QUOTE (Damadreas @ Jun 27 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some races will suck. It happens in every... game.. period. People will pick the things most efficient for their purposes within reason. End of story. E.g., I reincarnated into Lobo as a nekotai to help further my tankiness as I'm largely focused on bashing to 80+. I will likely buy a dagger to reincarnate to human once more 85+ for the exp bonus. God forbid I don't go Illithoid for RP purposes, woah is the basin?

I've RP'd in various formats for a long time and one thing I've noticed among IRE players is that a lot of them on the RP heavy side seem to take RP > Fun rather then Fun > RP side of things.

Deal with it?


The only particularly safe race all around is human. Always has been, basically. You can argue and min/max all you want about certain races for certain classes. But if we're going to whine, lets whine about how awesome and suited to do anything humans are without any penalties and need mad nerfing.


The most annoying thing about Merian sucking is that it's supposed to be Celest's trademark race, and you can't even play one if you want to do anything besides sit around and talk.
Nienla2009-06-28 00:13:52
QUOTE (Deschain @ Jun 27 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most annoying thing about Merian sucking is that it's supposed to be Celest's trademark race, and you can't even play one if you want to do anything besides sit around and talk.


It's mostly Merian's elemental weaknesses that butcher the race on a whole. While Balance and Equilibrium were overhauled, it appears that when this so-called 'racial overhaul' occured, I've been told that they still kept the formulas for racial buffs/weaknesses the same. This allows for Merian to get utterly butchered by Warriors with element runes. If weaknesses were re-assessed, the race would be a whole lot more viable.
Klaermon2009-06-28 00:34:12
Racial differences DEFINITELY go past min/maxing and powergaming. It's not like MapleStory when people restart characters because of one misplaced stat. It can kill, completely alter your gaming experience, etc. And trolling about combatants is just as bad as trolling about RPers - aka don't do it. I had heard that Imperian forums were notorious for their trolls, but yeesh. And I love that picture, Nienla. biggrin.gif
Unknown2009-06-28 01:07:54
Merians used to be a good race. With that eq bonus and 18 int, a Merian aquamage could bash like a maniac.

It was clearly more than Celest deserved, and appropriate action was undertaken by my Divine agents.