Shiri2009-07-22 11:53:38
Not that I bought any, but didn't these things steal from players that had them as well as just buggering around? They're out more than just the price of the toys, right? (If I'm wrong, it does seem like a bit of an overreaction and I haven't heard an awful lot of that specific complaint so maybe I am.)
Unknown2009-07-22 12:04:39
QUOTE (Ilyarin @ Jul 22 2009, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I almost can't believe you think that. That is the most ridiculous conclusion I've ever heard. It also stinks of getting mugged and deciding to shoot a passerby in revenge because he didn't help you. Likely the event creator wasn't/isn't a paid member of staff.
Not really, any events that happen represent Lusternia as a whole. And I could be wrong, but it seems odd that any events would occur that weren't at least ran by a paid staff first. And if that person agreed it was ok, or just didn't bother too look into the details, then I don't think I'm unjustified.
And yes, it probably is an over reaction because I'm the only one who seems to have this opinion. It just seems wrong to me to have been a trick in the first place, and yeah, to continue stealing however much they stole by being in peoples inventories. I didn't really notice how much this was, since Dynami was talking about it on the guild aether when I logged in so I just took the lot of them and dropped them in my manse.
Chade2009-07-22 12:25:07
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Jul 21 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol. One time, I traded my HR for an SoJ and the SoJ poofed, so I complained to Blizzard.
Ahem, anyway. The gold belongs to IRE, why are you complaining about them merely redistributing their own gold?
I'm sure this event will turn interesting, just as soon as the Demigods finish getting all their dingbats from mass slaying toys.
Ahem, anyway. The gold belongs to IRE, why are you complaining about them merely redistributing their own gold?
I'm sure this event will turn interesting, just as soon as the Demigods finish getting all their dingbats from mass slaying toys.
Its not just the Demi's I'm a lowly level 95 and I'm raking them in
Vathael2009-07-22 12:41:04
i'm just sad i'm working out of town til thursday evening and missing out on the fun.
Chade2009-07-22 12:42:27
You will not be a happy man when you see how much free stuff you've missed
Eventru2009-07-22 13:43:07
QUOTE (Shiri @ Jul 22 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not that I bought any, but didn't these things steal from players that had them as well as just buggering around? They're out more than just the price of the toys, right? (If I'm wrong, it does seem like a bit of an overreaction and I haven't heard an awful lot of that specific complaint so maybe I am.)
They did, yes. We logged everything stolen to ensure that if anything inordinate was taken or if something went bonkers we could return it without worrying about accuracy. I think the most anyone lost from the dolls was 132 gold in a single hit (though if you put a bunch of dolls in your stockroom, you might have lost a bit more). There was also a very small chance they'd steal commodities, but at a glance, every time that fired they didn't take any (Instance: 2009/07/19 03:24:39 - 0 coal stolen from Ardmore).
So really, you're out the cost you put into the dolls, and up however much you make from killing toys.
RE: Chade on the toy times, that's up to the person running the event. Remember, we have lives too! Just because it's peak time for you doesn't mean it's peak time for us (or, if you're like me, peak time is any time I'm not doing something else. v.v). But I'm sure as time goes by we'll be staggering toys so they're not favouring any particular timezone.
Reiha2009-07-22 14:37:10
Ignored the tl;dr posts -
But I was so sad with some of the things the toys said as they died
I usually hate events and ignore them as much as possible, but watching this one has been entertaining. Plus I got dingbats out of it.
But I was so sad with some of the things the toys said as they died
I usually hate events and ignore them as much as possible, but watching this one has been entertaining. Plus I got dingbats out of it.
Tervic2009-07-22 15:48:31
I would really like to see some posts from people getting toys at a time other than the ones where I'm asleep or at work (all the ones I've seen are logged to something like 6, 7 AM local time for me). Events are great, but it's inordinately frustrating when I feel that I miss out on the entire thing merely because I don't login at the right time. It's one thing to say 'golly gee, people who don't login don't necessarially see the event' but I've faithfully logged in every evening at 10 PM local time, and out around 12:30, 1 AM. Kan see toy raid plz?
That said, what backstory I know for this event is pretty awesome.
That said, what backstory I know for this event is pretty awesome.
Llandros2009-07-22 16:12:55
I hate this event, this game everyone and all things that have ever or may someday exist.
The only thing that will possibly make me happy is if i am given a free coobix and insta demi.....
Judging from the comments here it's only a matter of time until the fabric of reality is re-woven to suit my own desires.
For the record, I haven't gotten a single dingbat, i bought 7 of the toys and i think this event is awsome. I don't know why people are such downers. It's like at freaking christmas where people say ooh, i got a free arti and the only thing everyone else hears is ooh, everyone got an artie except for me. Be happy that something cool is happening and that people are getting free stuff.
Running to the boards and going super emo-nova does nothing but discourage the volunteer admin from wanting to do things because all they get for thier troubles are our constant attempts try to beat and them to death with their own inability to please everyone.
The only thing that will possibly make me happy is if i am given a free coobix and insta demi.....
Judging from the comments here it's only a matter of time until the fabric of reality is re-woven to suit my own desires.
For the record, I haven't gotten a single dingbat, i bought 7 of the toys and i think this event is awsome. I don't know why people are such downers. It's like at freaking christmas where people say ooh, i got a free arti and the only thing everyone else hears is ooh, everyone got an artie except for me. Be happy that something cool is happening and that people are getting free stuff.
Running to the boards and going super emo-nova does nothing but discourage the volunteer admin from wanting to do things because all they get for thier troubles are our constant attempts try to beat and them to death with their own inability to please everyone.
Estarra2009-07-22 16:14:39
Deschain and anyone else who feels "cheated" by purchasing toys that turned out to be a bad buy, I will refund all gold you spent on the toys (we did track it) so long as you don't mind not being able to benefit from any other part of the event (such as essentially free dingbats and what those dingbats may buy during the event).
BTW, when an EVENTS post pops up announcing a mysterious stranger is selling ridiculously cheap items, then it may be safe to assume that it is ... well, an event and not an OOC special sale.
BTW, when an EVENTS post pops up announcing a mysterious stranger is selling ridiculously cheap items, then it may be safe to assume that it is ... well, an event and not an OOC special sale.
Shiri2009-07-22 16:18:14
QUOTE (Eventru @ Jul 22 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They did, yes. We logged everything stolen to ensure that if anything inordinate was taken or if something went bonkers we could return it without worrying about accuracy. I think the most anyone lost from the dolls was 132 gold in a single hit (though if you put a bunch of dolls in your stockroom, you might have lost a bit more). There was also a very small chance they'd steal commodities, but at a glance, every time that fired they didn't take any (Instance: 2009/07/19 03:24:39 - 0 coal stolen from Ardmore).
So really, you're out the cost you put into the dolls, and up however much you make from killing toys.
So really, you're out the cost you put into the dolls, and up however much you make from killing toys.
Oh, well, as long as they're not running off with all your gold that's not that major...
Shaddus2009-07-22 16:23:08
I think people need to quit bitching and either play the game or don't. Seriously.
That's my two cents. Next?
That's my two cents. Next?
Furien2009-07-22 16:25:33
I sorta realized from the get-go that 'Yoftie r'Wesmak' had absolutely no mechanical-related onomatopoeia in it like just about every other gnome name did, and that anything with that much perfume and makeup on is questionable at best.
I don't really understand the inclination for people to buy them, either. Sure, they're toys, but chances are they wouldn't interact with one another or have nearly the same variation as the dingbat dolls all did. The only thing that made me almost fall for it would be knowing that there were travelling merchants in Achaea that occasionally dropped in to sell odd items that admin/celani made in their spare time to players.
Think of it this way:
>buy toy from yoftie
You pay 1,000 gold to Yoftie r'Wesmak, the Shady Individual and receive a toy and accept all possible consequences that may come from it because hey, it's your gold.
I don't really understand the inclination for people to buy them, either. Sure, they're toys, but chances are they wouldn't interact with one another or have nearly the same variation as the dingbat dolls all did. The only thing that made me almost fall for it would be knowing that there were travelling merchants in Achaea that occasionally dropped in to sell odd items that admin/celani made in their spare time to players.
Think of it this way:
>buy toy from yoftie
You pay 1,000 gold to Yoftie r'Wesmak, the Shady Individual and receive a toy and accept all possible consequences that may come from it because hey, it's your gold.
Tervic2009-07-22 16:28:11
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 22 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I sorta realized from the get-go that 'Yoftie r'Wesmak' had absolutely no mechanical-related onomatopoeia in it like just about every other gnome name did, and that anything with that much perfume and makeup on is questionable at best.
I don't really understand the inclination for people to buy them, either. Sure, they're toys, but chances are they wouldn't interact with one another or have nearly the same variation as the dingbat dolls all did. The only thing that made me almost fall for it would be knowing that there were travelling merchants in Achaea that occasionally dropped in to sell odd items that admin/celani made in their spare time to players.
Think of it this way:
>buy toy from yoftie
You pay 1,000 gold to Yoftie r'Wesmak, the Shady Individual and receive a toy and accept all possible consequences that may come from it because hey, it's your gold.
I don't really understand the inclination for people to buy them, either. Sure, they're toys, but chances are they wouldn't interact with one another or have nearly the same variation as the dingbat dolls all did. The only thing that made me almost fall for it would be knowing that there were travelling merchants in Achaea that occasionally dropped in to sell odd items that admin/celani made in their spare time to players.
Think of it this way:
>buy toy from yoftie
You pay 1,000 gold to Yoftie r'Wesmak, the Shady Individual and receive a toy and accept all possible consequences that may come from it because hey, it's your gold.
And they were so funny too Though the bad attitude that many of the toys had... tsk tsk. I feel no shame about attempting to lock them in my study. But they escaped, and now we hunt them, don't we, precious? Yes we do, for the evil toyses made FOOLS of us! Kill them, yes, and slice open their pretty innards, precious.
Unknown2009-07-22 16:59:52
Personally, I'm rather having fun with them. When I first heard about them, I couldn't figure out why they'd be selling dolls for gold when they had dolls for dingbats... and while, after learning that they where thieves, I had joked around about them starting to attack people, I hadn't expected them to actually do it.
While I never did care for scouring the basin in an attempt to mop up the rest of an event mob, I always do hope to see the end of them and I hope I'm around for the ending of this one too.
While I never did care for scouring the basin in an attempt to mop up the rest of an event mob, I always do hope to see the end of them and I hope I'm around for the ending of this one too.
Chade2009-07-22 19:19:10
QUOTE (Estarra @ Jul 22 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deschain and anyone else who feels "cheated" by purchasing toys that turned out to be a bad buy, I will refund all gold you spent on the toys (we did track it) so long as you don't mind not being able to benefit from any other part of the event (such as essentially free dingbats and what those dingbats may buy during the event).
BTW, when an EVENTS post pops up announcing a mysterious stranger is selling ridiculously cheap items, then it may be safe to assume that it is ... well, an event and not an OOC special sale.
BTW, when an EVENTS post pops up announcing a mysterious stranger is selling ridiculously cheap items, then it may be safe to assume that it is ... well, an event and not an OOC special sale.
I think I lost 150ks worth of auronidion particles to those toys, and you can keep them if I did, I've made 200x that in dingbats. People have to look on it this way, killing 1 of those toys is equivalent to an hours bashing for most people. I've killed a lot of them with just some lucky timing and knowing when to run.
People need to quit bitchin' and start in on the toys.
Thank you and more toy invasions please!
Tervic2009-07-22 19:32:53
Why not just make the toys hate on people, and give each person a % chance per unit time to spawn a toy at their location so long as it isn't inside organizational territory (aka they're "out looking", and/or nexus power repels the evils)? That way, a minority of people can't just sweep up all the event mobs (*cough CHADE cough*), everyone has a chance to find some, and overall event participation is enhanced. Many people, like myself, can't be online for hours and hours on end in the hope of catching an invasion, but would still very much like to have the possibility of participating. The gold loss from buying the toys in the beginning? Whatever. Not getting to participate in the rest of the event because of poor timing? Not so cool.
To pre-empt some concerns, make this an opt-in system so that younglings don't get wtfpwnd.
To pre-empt some concerns, make this an opt-in system so that younglings don't get wtfpwnd.
Chade2009-07-22 19:40:23
QUOTE (Tervic @ Jul 22 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why not just make the toys hate on people, and give each person a % chance per unit time to spawn a toy at their location so long as it isn't inside organizational territory (aka they're "out looking", and/or nexus power repels the evils)? That way, a minority of people can't just sweep up all the event mobs (*cough CHADE cough*), everyone has a chance to find some, and overall event participation is enhanced. Many people, like myself, can't be online for hours and hours on end in the hope of catching an invasion, but would still very much like to have the possibility of participating. The gold loss from buying the toys in the beginning? Whatever. Not getting to participate in the rest of the event because of poor timing? Not so cool.
To pre-empt some concerns, make this an opt-in system so that younglings don't get wtfpwnd.
To pre-empt some concerns, make this an opt-in system so that younglings don't get wtfpwnd.
Psh, I'm not running around picking up corpses from other people I'm just killing and working as a team to track them down, hell I'm probably no where near the top earner either.
Tervic2009-07-22 19:46:14
QUOTE (Chade @ Jul 22 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Psh, I'm not running around picking up corpses from other people. I'm just killing and working as a team, hell I'm probably no where near the top earner either.
I'm not accusing you of corpse-ninja'ing, just accusing you of constantly being out finding and killing toys. It is very obvious that some people get a way larger haul because they just find more, or are constantly out looking, and don't leave anything for other people. Emphasis on not leaving anything for other people. I'm just trying to think of ways to spread the mobs around so that everyone who wants to can have a chance at slaying some adorable moulded plastic.
You'd probably hate the other idea I had, which would be to cap the bounty that any single person could receive in a given timeframe. This would effectively remove the incentive to "eventwhore".
I personally think that the best overall option would be to hybridize the current randomized (?) dropping with the opt-in system I mentioned before, so that people who do take the initiative and go out in groups are rewarded, but everybody has the possibility of at least a small bonus/reward that they might not otherwise even see.
Daganev2009-07-22 20:05:22
I think diminishing returns would make sense.
After 10 corpsses, you need 2 to get 1 dingbat, then you need 3 then 4 etc.
After 10 corpsses, you need 2 to get 1 dingbat, then you need 3 then 4 etc.