Casilu2009-07-24 18:23:17
QUOTE (daganev @ Jul 24 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So how exactly do you want to explain what llandros wrote?
I mean its one thing to disagree and explain your logic, it's a completely separate thing to disagree and not have an alternative explanation at all.
I mean its one thing to disagree and explain your logic, it's a completely separate thing to disagree and not have an alternative explanation at all.
Knowing his interactions with me from the last game, he's a bit jumpy and excitable when it comes to his role. He's like a mafia-playing puppy.
Unknown2009-07-24 18:24:37
Also holding back on my vote at the moment, my first impression of what Llandros posted was that it was an innocent question. I can see how it can be interpreted otherwise though, so I'll keep an eye out.
Furien2009-07-24 18:25:57
That was an odd revelation from Casilu but I guess it helps us even the odds, just a bit. Willing to think she's town at this point.
Ilyarin2009-07-24 18:26:04
And I agree that "creatures" is most likely just a derogatory term for the Gods who decided to play the game.
Unknown2009-07-24 18:29:27
QUOTE (Furien @ Jul 24 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was an odd revelation from Casilu but I guess it helps us even the odds, just a bit. Willing to think she's town at this point.
Probably shouldn't -assume- she is but that role does help push her in that direction.
Xavius2009-07-24 18:32:56
Hai guyz the topic title is hero mafia and we all haz rollz and they's not tarot cards!!!1
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
Zynna2009-07-24 18:41:44
QUOTE (Othero @ Jul 24 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Zynna: Think you could explain why you're voting for Xavius? I don't see where a reason was given and I don't seem to follow your logic.
I'm voting for Xavius because I didn't like how he quickly voted for Dag, in what almost seemed like a defending OMGUS vote, just because Dag voted for Llandros on the basis that Llandros' comment could be taken for rolefishing. When I read Dag's reasoning, it seemed to me he was saying that Llandros was being slightly suspicious because it seemed like he was fishing for information about our roles, which would benefit scum at this point.
While I don't think one comment by Llandros is enough to damn him, I do think the logic behind Dag's was sound. Especially given that it is the first day, we don't have much to go on and analyze yet, and we have to take what we can.
So I voted for Xavius not because he disagreed with Dag, but because he claimed that sound logic isn't sound and try to confuse people by saying 'even for day 1 logic' it was bad ... which it wasn't.
Furien2009-07-24 18:43:12
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 24 2009, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hai guyz the topic title is hero mafia and we all haz rollz and they's not tarot cards!!!1
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
This is logic I like. Unvote
Vote: Daganev
Zynna2009-07-24 18:43:26
QUOTE (Othero @ Jul 24 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is 5 Mafia, 14 town, and that leaves us with three. A SK and two person cult? A three person cult? A SK, Survivor, and a one person cult? I'd assume the line about people not being brought here would refer to either a SK or a cult. The two gods only wanted two sides. Any other factions would be brought in from a outside source.
Would a bomb be considered a non-town role?
Llandros2009-07-24 18:44:27
QUOTE (casilu @ Jul 24 2009, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Knowing his interactions with me from the last game, he's a bit jumpy and excitable when it comes to his role. He's like a mafia-playing puppy.
Zynna2009-07-24 18:48:09
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 24 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hai guyz the topic title is hero mafia and we all haz rollz and they's not tarot cards!!!1
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
I mean, really. You guys have your roles. They're not tarot cards. You want to vote for Llandros because he said it's not a tarot card, but a hero, as mentioned at the top of the page?
If anything, maybe you should be jumping Daganev for thinking that's weird.
Again pushing for his lynch? I'm also thinking that a common mafia tactic is to try and lunch the strongest mafia players, and Dag definitely is in that category, so I'm finding this doubly suspicious.
Are you saying Xavius that in no possible reading of what Llandros and Dag wrote that you can understand why Dag thought Llandros might be rolefishing?
And in any case, Dag's vote has pushed things forward -- it's generated conversation, which is what we needed!
Unknown2009-07-24 18:52:36
QUOTE (Zynna @ Jul 24 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would a bomb be considered a non-town role?
Yeah, most likely. A bomb almost always wins by itself.
Xavius2009-07-24 18:55:51
QUOTE (Zynna @ Jul 24 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you saying Xavius that in no possible reading of what Llandros and Dag wrote that you can understand why Dag thought Llandros might be rolefishing?
I can think of one possible reading, but it involves reading through the lens of somebody who didn't get a townie PM.
Xavius2009-07-24 19:00:44
Also, FOS: Zynna for heavily implying bomb without provocation. If Dag turns up scum, Zynna needs to die.
Shaddus2009-07-24 19:03:06
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 24 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, FOS: Zynna for heavily implying bomb without provocation. If Dag turns up scum, Zynna needs to die.
I agree, Zynna is acting rather strange.
Zynna2009-07-24 19:06:05
Ghat are you talking about? We were brainstorming on possible roles that the outside 3 could be. SK, survivor, cult, and jester had been named. Bomb hadn't. Simply trying to figure out our universe of possibilities.
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 24 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, FOS: Zynna for heavily implying bomb without provocation. If Dag turns up scum, Zynna needs to die.
Zynna2009-07-24 19:13:40
Well given that I did get a townie PM, and I do understand Dag's reason for the day one vote, I'm not sure if you just have trouble seeing multiple viewpoints or if you have a hidden motive.
Also, I have no idea yet if Dag is scum, town, or other. All I am defending is his vote because it did make logical sense (even though the available evidence was slight), and I dislike it being twisted.
Also, I have no idea yet if Dag is scum, town, or other. All I am defending is his vote because it did make logical sense (even though the available evidence was slight), and I dislike it being twisted.
QUOTE (Xavius @ Jul 24 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can think of one possible reading, but it involves reading through the lens of somebody who didn't get a townie PM.
Zynna2009-07-24 19:16:00
Sorry for the typos!
Llandros2009-07-24 20:04:41
Well, I can clear this up for everyone right now. I win with the town.
There, now that i'm a confirmed townie, we can move along.
There, now that i'm a confirmed townie, we can move along.
Unknown2009-07-24 20:12:19
QUOTE (Llandros @ Jul 24 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I can clear this up for everyone right now. I win with the town.
There, now that i'm a confirmed townie, we can move along.
There, now that i'm a confirmed townie, we can move along.
That really just gives more reason to vote for you. You might as well just be inexperienced mafia looking to try to make people think you are town. You have no reason to reveal any info right now and you shouldn't be unless you're paranoid or looking to make a attempt at tricking people into thinking you are safe.