Sometimes there's just no one worth voting for.

Vote: Daganev

Because he's wrong, Furien's story is consistent, Daganev is lying about the inconsistency or too inept to comprehend what Furien is saying, and he is pushing this with alarming fervor for someone who is so wrong.

Sorry 19 people, my point still stands though. We have too many lurkers and people who keep going "but nobody is setting off my scumdar"

Hrm, has Rika clarified why her vote remains on AtS? I mean, after everyone pointed out that she voted after AtS and nobody could've really expected Arix to jump out like that. And where are the other 10 votes.

We shall see, I don't think I'm wrong. Unless you were lieing about not being informed about being part of the cult.
Though I'm not sure why the two of you would single me out when Zynna came to the same conclusion. But I guess cults would try to off the biggest threat to the cult one at a time?

I mean, Rika and Furien are candidates for my vote. You'll have to excuse my hesitation on Furien who's two votes away now, though. The last time I voted for the person I thought was scummiest I started getting accused of being one of them.

What are your reasons for both of them?

But once again, you people remain stubborn and insistent on being completely wrong, so I only hope you'll look at the people voting for me and find one, two, maybe even three scum among them.

Unvote
Vote: Furien

And no, you're not allowed to turn that into a joke about me being scum.

IF, IF IF, you turn out to be telling the truth. (which I doubt) Just take this as a lesson to not be hyperbolic about your role that you plan on revealing later. Saying things like "this will be your biggest mistake ever" when you are not a doctor, cop, jester or bomb, basically means you are lying.

I.e., Don't lie about your roles!

I lol'd.

I'll be taking it as a lesson to never try and communicate with you ever again.

My vote's on Rika, not Furien.

You should probably unvote, revote if that's what you want it to be.

Due to being really tired from moving today, could someone summarize the past 2-3 pages. Then I shall make a post on what I think of it, if needed.

Yeah, but my vote was originally on AllergictoSabres. Oh well. Unvote, Vote: Rika.

Dag, I'm "singling" you out because you're being very forceful with the whole Furien situation. I am in agreement with Xavius that Furien's story has been pretty constant. He might've made a mistake in thinking is role is an investigator one, which in someways it is, and at first believed that he was in fact very important to the town (which his comment about being lynched the first time would've made some sense). People make mistakes, and he read his role incorrectly or made some assumptions about it.

It is possible, and obviously so, that something happened when Furien tried to induct someone (xavius). he said he managed to write the pamphlet and send if off to the person who delivers it. His role is obviously paranoid if they're not willing to go up to the person themselves and induct them personally or that's how his particular cult works. Either way, it is possible that the NPC was stopped from sending out the pamphlet or they managed to send it out but somehow in the process it got snatched. Thus it would've never made it to its intended target. Furien also said that if he inducted scum then he would be dead. Well he's not dead, so Xavius is more than likely either town or neutral(not sure what to call the non-town/non-scum people ). Atleast that's how I've seen Furien's actions played out. He made a few errors when reading his role, believed he was something when he was another thing that had a several close similarities to the role he believed himself to be, he tried to protect his inductee to make sure there wasn't a train on them since everyone seems really hardcore for the goddamn training, and now his more or less being misinterpreted. He's also being damned for making a mistake. Right now he seems in a catch 22. Either he's doing something terribly wrong by protecting someone from being dumptrucked by the train or he's not giving the correct or full story. :\\

Honestly, the way you keep going at Furien makes it seems like the basis of why Furien's voted for himself twice now. He's seems extremely frustrated that he can't seem to make it clear to you his actions and truthfully it doesn't look like you're willing to listen. From my perspective it looks like you want to get rid of him just because he's cult of sorts. If he's a pro-town cult, and wins with us, and hopefully doesn't hurt us, I don't see why we should get rid of him. He's more strength to the town, if he is. I really don't want to see another town get lost simply because of someone's unwillingness to listen to someone.

Vote: Daganev

1. I'm always forceful when I have my targets on someone I think is scum. Why would I want to be laid back on getting rid of scum? If you remember, I was also forceful against llandros, but then I was given good evidence to explain his behavior, and so I backed off and agreed that he is probably town. I'm still waiting for that good evidence for Furien.

2. I can't begin to count the number of times people have voted for themselves, just for us to find out they are scum later. If someone is truly town, and they are frustrated that somebody won't listen to them, then the correct course of action is to find the person they think is scum (based on the fact that they know is town) and try to convince others of this fact. Furien keeps trying to do this, and then he lays off, as if he knows I'm actually right and can't argue against it. His frustration comes from being caught in a lie, nothing else.

Lets just put it this way, if you have a better option of who is might be scum, lets hear it. So far, we were promised to have info to confirm that Furien is a towny cult, but we don't have anything of the sort. Even the theory that Furien must have been role blocked is crappy, and has no basis with any arguments that even Furien can give.

I'm glad that you are voting, but I am sad that you are falling for his "woe is me" routine.

Someone get this over with, please.

Fine, I haven't trusted you since you said you were cult. The change in stories did not help between going from a cop to a cult either. I sincerely hope you are not town, but you have been most suspicious to me.

Vote: Furien

Furien because to me he seems all over the place. Some of the stuff seems plausible to me, but the whole ordeal seems so erratic that it just has me on edge.

Rika because she cited her reason for voting for me because I was the tenth vote on Solanis, even though she herself ended up being the tenth vote as well before Solanis got lynched. I don't think she's scummy because of the vote on Solanis, I think she's scummy for focusing on me for a very weak/nonsensical reason.

It looks like Furien is getting lynched today, so for me I'll be looking at Rika tomorrow.

Regarding the 'forceful' argument... aren't you supposed to be aggressive in this game? That is, as Daganev said, if you aren't aggressive when there is possible scum in the air, isn't that just letting the scum get away? Besides Furien, the only one that seems suspicious is Rika and (to some, but not me) AtS. I'm also not sure of Xavius' complete flip from anti-Furien to pro-Furien, especially with Furien constantly screaming 'Xavius is 100% town, yo.' Daganev's aggro, but as has been said, that seems a) typical of Daganev and beneficial to the purpose of rooting out scum.