Aetherspace Experience

by Estarra

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Chade2009-08-21 16:20:50
Added to this Jozen looks like he's going to hit Demi from Titan in less than three days. Pretty impressive going.

Of course, if the admin want to leave it a few days so I can get Demi, thats fine by me.
Unknown2009-08-21 16:25:00
Lowering the XP rate doesn't fix the problem that -any- circle can go effectively bash somewhere more profitable than Astral. Would it make any sense to adjust XP by level?
Chade2009-08-21 16:26:01
QUOTE (Tresol2 @ Aug 21 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lowering the XP rate doesn't fix the problem that -any- circle can go effectively bash somewhere more profitable than Astral. Would it make any sense to adjust XP by level?


Aetherspace XP is adjusted by level. A level 80 would probably have got 14ish% on the same trip I took to get 14%, which is why its so obscene.
Unknown2009-08-21 16:47:46
QUOTE (Chade @ Aug 21 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aetherspace XP is adjusted by level. A level 80 would probably have got 14ish% on the same trip I took to get 14%, which is why its so obscene.


Oh wow. Then it should definitely be lowered, and have the XP adjustments be steeper. I did notice that I was getting pretty much the same percentages as I went up, which was ridiculous.
Chade2009-08-21 16:53:59
Personally I'm hoping Roark is on holiday for a few days so I can get some use out of this wink.gif
Lawliet2009-08-21 20:14:40
GUYS! I think the important thing you're missing here is that -I- have yet to have the opertunity to abuse this! Stop trying to get it nerfed! angry.gif
Damadreas2009-08-21 20:34:02
And I, as a player would likely get very rare and few instances to do this at all.

But quick, everyone force out more Demigod's for PK! Quick!

Nevermind, no offense to anyone else but the second it's XP is 'good' the first day it's available you should have realized there was a problem.

As is Aetherspace will quickly detoriate to "Lets force the new combatants to Demi in a week train" land. Plenty of people will argue otherwise. Plenty of those people are people that'd do such things. Plenty others are too clueless to realize that's the way things work a lot of times.
Llandros2009-08-21 21:26:52
Plenty of people need to take it down a notch and at least try to seem constructive
Jozen2009-08-21 22:17:50
Coming from a person that has thoroughly taken advantage of this, I believe it should be definitely taken down several notches.

I went from 98 to Titan in 2 days, and now I will be a Titan to Demigod in 3. Many crews easily set triggers. On top of this, people are scrambling to take crews out to take advantage of this. It's clearly an easy button and being heavily abused.
Estarra2009-08-21 22:18:49
QUOTE (Jozen @ Aug 21 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coming from a person that has thoroughly taken advantage of this, I believe it should be definitely taken down several notches.

I went from 98 to Titan in 2 days, and now I will be a Titan to Demigod in 3. Many crews easily set triggers. Many people are scrambling to take crews out to take advantage of this. It's clearly an easy button and being heavily abused.


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Lawliet2009-08-21 22:19:59
QUOTE (Estarra @ Aug 21 2009, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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NO! DON'T LISTEN TO HIM! HE'S CORRUPT!
Gero2009-08-21 22:26:59
No he's an honest hypocrite, he's admitting he's using it, while stating that the xp is really good for the amount of work it takes for some crew members. Astral bashing you at least have to be a certain level to kill things like that.
Lawliet2009-08-21 22:28:14
QUOTE (SerenGuard Gero @ Aug 21 2009, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No he's an honest hypocrite, he's admitting he's using it, while stating that the xp is really good for the amount of work it takes for some crew members. Astral bashing you at least have to be a certain level to kill things like that.


Gah, shouldn't have been dicking around with marriage/Celest, should've been doing THIS!
Jozen2009-08-21 22:29:48
QUOTE (SerenGuard Gero @ Aug 21 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No he's an honest hypocrite, he's admitting he's using it, while stating that the xp is really good for the amount of work it takes for some crew members. Astral bashing you at least have to be a certain level to kill things like that.


You clearly have no idea what is the definition of hypocrite.
Damadreas2009-08-21 22:36:45


So it took 3 days and 7 pages for people to realize what I suspected instantly? Constructive criticism. Fix the XP gain at least temporarily so people stop abusing the situation.
Ilyarin2009-08-21 22:46:24
I think, over levels 85, experience could do with being cut by around 60%. At that rate, it's still actually desirable to bash there, but it's not insane. The key thing we need to keep in mind is that aetherspace MUST offer something desirable (ie, better than is available elsewhere) so that people will be using the system frequently. Only when this is true will there be aetherspace encounters, which is what I personally would love to encourage.
Zalandrus2009-08-21 22:57:09
QUOTE (Ilyarin @ Aug 21 2009, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think, over levels 85, experience could do with being cut by around 60%. At that rate, it's still actually desirable to bash there, but it's not insane. The key thing we need to keep in mind is that aetherspace MUST offer something desirable (ie, better than is available elsewhere) so that people will be using the system frequently. Only when this is true will there be aetherspace encounters, which is what I personally would love to encourage.


Cut by around 60%? As in, making things only 40% of the experience they are now? I think that's a bit too much. Something more in the range of cutting by 30-40% probably...

To give people an idea, I'm level 86, was siphoning on a ship bashing prime aether beasts. Was getting .07% per kill, but we were killing fairly slowly (as in, much slower than I could bash, even if I weren't a monk)
Lawliet2009-08-21 22:59:12
QUOTE (Ilyarin @ Aug 21 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think, over levels 85, experience could do with being cut by around 60%. At that rate, it's still actually desirable to bash there, but it's not insane. The key thing we need to keep in mind is that aetherspace MUST offer something desirable (ie, better than is available elsewhere) so that people will be using the system frequently. Only when this is true will there be aetherspace encounters, which is what I personally would love to encourage.


A bit of a lower drop would be more reasonable, plus the drop being eased into.
Moiraine2009-08-21 23:06:40
1) I wasn't aware that the XP was scaled like that. I assumed it was fixed. At level 80, I got fifteen percent or so from one trip, and that seemed alright. If you're getting more than five percent in the mid-90's, that's overdoing it.

2) This is another reason to trade some of the experience for different bonuses. Make it analagous to regular bashing, but crew members get passive energy reserve regeneration, gain special buffs over time(spend an hour in the aether, get a one hour resistance to insanity buff, or something similarly unique), whatever can be explained by basking in the unformed energies of the cosmos. tongue.gif

Aetherbashing can be better than regular bashing without pouring experience and gold over people like they're part of a balanced breakfast.
Ilyarin2009-08-21 23:08:38
QUOTE (Zalandrus Meyedsun @ Aug 21 2009, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cut by around 60%? As in, making things only 40% of the experience they are now? I think that's a bit too much. Something more in the range of cutting by 30-40% probably...

To give people an idea, I'm level 86, was siphoning on a ship bashing prime aether beasts. Was getting .07% per kill, but we were killing fairly slowly (as in, much slower than I could bash, even if I weren't a monk)


Siphon experience is 50% of turret/empath/pilot experience.