Unknown2009-09-01 16:03:34
Probably not a good idea to let Flandre out yet, given her background.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:04:11
Yeah.. Would be sort of pointless for the scum to attempt to kill SDM at this point since we would lynch Celina just on the principle of that argument. It also makes sense, rather than attempting to "kill the town" as a win condition, I bet it is something more along the lines of "Take over the region". If that is the case though, we can ill afford to reveal each of the leaders, especially if killing a leader leads to controlling individual members. They kill a leader, we have to lynch a member just to keep the status quo if it acts more like a conditional culting. That also means the scum would be putting a premium on individuals that _can_ be culted, since I would hazard that it is just specific individuals.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:07:55
Hmm, with this knowledge, how should we handle people who claim to not be from any of the listed areas?
Shiri2009-09-01 16:08:26
I don't think we can afford to lynch Celina based on my guessing yet, we have better leads to follow than ganking someone who can't post in her own defence. Incidentally, if I'm right Mokou is pretty dubious since she hates the leader of Eientei.
Ultimately we still have to figure out everyone's roles though. Yes, if I'm right the scum get a large advantage by us revealing the leaders, but since we're confirming (except for scenarios where Marisa can steal other people's cards, or something) rather than just claiming, we can close in on the scum this way and there's no guarantee we'll be revealing useful targets anyway. Plus they might still have doctors and roleblockers to contend with in addition to that other goal.
Ultimately we still have to figure out everyone's roles though. Yes, if I'm right the scum get a large advantage by us revealing the leaders, but since we're confirming (except for scenarios where Marisa can steal other people's cards, or something) rather than just claiming, we can close in on the scum this way and there's no guarantee we'll be revealing useful targets anyway. Plus they might still have doctors and roleblockers to contend with in addition to that other goal.
Shiri2009-09-01 16:09:41
And if their role is confirmed, it really depends on who they are. Ran and I aren't from any of the listed areas but we're town.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:12:09
I wasn't suggesting lynching Celina right now, I was saying that if the SDM falls and Celina gets free because of it that it might become a priority at that time. We honestly don't know enough about the role as is, and adding the possiblity of culting in members does lend credit to the arguement. I have a feeling that the mafia isn't particularly large in this game. Least, to have been so ineffective on Night 0.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:13:13
Yeah, I'm not either but I'm town as well. Well, _everyone_ is town, but I thought I'd throw it out there if we have a post checker and since I haven't been confirmed.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:15:35
Oh, quick question. Should we be worried about Last Words? Mine lends itself to bad things happening. Least, it seems so. Directed at whom, I don't know.
Shiri2009-09-01 16:19:21
Uhh. Good question. I would hope that any townie with a relevant one would tell us about that honestly as it came up. Let's try to keep any information down beyond what we can usefully confirm to mark someone as innocent and people who are under suspicion of being scum.
Arix2009-09-01 16:24:53
I'm gonna UNVOTE DAGANEV for now, evidence suggests he's just being daganev. I'll look into Kiradawea, but I'd need to do a post search, so it may take awhile
Lorick2009-09-01 16:25:55
She was more vocal than average in the last few pages, although it may be she just had more to say then.
Lorick2009-09-01 16:26:37
Anyways, duty calls, see everyone in 5-6 hours.
Arix2009-09-01 16:32:01
OK, I can see what you guys are saying about Kiradawea, and I'm all for putting pressure on her. Daganev I can at least grudgingly admit seems to be town, Kira doesn't have that kind of backup.
VOTE: KIRADAWEA
VOTE: KIRADAWEA
Kiradawea2009-09-01 16:40:13
Geez. I guess it's time for me to reveal something then? Fine. For now, I'll reveal this. I know that Mima wants to kill Reimu, and through that obtain the Yin-Yang orbs. I don't know why. All I know is, it'll be very bad news for us if she manages to obtain them. This is why I'm so hesitant for a mass name-claim.
Kiradawea2009-09-01 16:44:41
QUOTE (Lorick @ Sep 1 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was more vocal than average in the last few pages, although it may be she just had more to say then.
I barely manage to come around on the forums these days. I've got a lot to do, hence that mega monstrosity of a post (if that's what you meant).
Zynna2009-09-01 17:05:08
I don't really see how mass name claiming helps town. Especially as it seems some want to kill/challenge a specific person for their conditions to apply. And if Shiri is right about the mafia wanting leaders from each area mass claim just helps narrow down the list for them without really helping us any.
Did Flandre ever help out in the games? If so could be good to set Celina free.
Did Flandre ever help out in the games? If so could be good to set Celina free.
Kiradawea2009-09-01 17:09:18
Don't set Celina free yet. Let's wait a little and see how things develop first.
Unknown2009-09-01 17:15:47
Unvote Serella Hmm interesting information. Anyone know who hasn't posted yet? I know we were talking about not lyching inactives earlier for possible town but this game has like 20+ people in it and maybe 5 or 6 are talking. Anyone who is familiar with the story want to explain what these ying yang orbs are? I might just try looking for the wiki and reading up on it ze~.
Arix2009-09-01 17:59:14
AtS has made one single post this game
Unknown2009-09-01 18:41:24
QUOTE (Zetsu @ Sep 1 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unvote Serella Hmm interesting information. Anyone know who hasn't posted yet? I know we were talking about not lyching inactives earlier for possible town but this game has like 20+ people in it and maybe 5 or 6 are talking. Anyone who is familiar with the story want to explain what these ying yang orbs are? I might just try looking for the wiki and reading up on it ze~.
Hakurei Yin-Yang orbs are Reimu's weapons for most of the games. She uses them to shoot bullets and uses them with spell cards. And the very first game wasn't a shooter, I think it was more like break out where Reimu used the Ying-yang orb as her ball. Not sure why she wants the orbs, only those in Reimu's blood line can use them.