Many bard and monk guilds suffer from a lack of history and specific identity. The Cacophony has been working on this trying to find and refine a theme for the guild. I just wanted to get a little input from the forums as to what yall think are the bounds of IC and OOC that we can push using this theme.
We are going to focus on our musical roots. A cacophony is an unpleasant noise of jarring sounds and necroscream is a heavy metal extension of that. Indeed, our guild tutor spontaneously headbangs from time to time. The lack of playable drums and guitars complicates things but since they have never been they can't really be missed.
So questions, referring to music in terms of metal or rock, IC or OOC? If you think it's OOC how would you phrase it to make it more IC?
Necroscream is derived from heavy metal but I don't really find any mentions of specific musical genres which is why I'm concerned.
Many bard and monk guilds suffer from a lack of history and specific identity. The Cacophony has been working on this trying to find and refine a theme for the guild. I just wanted to get a little input from the forums as to what yall think are the bounds of IC and OOC that we can push using this theme.
We are going to focus on our musical roots. A cacophony is an unpleasant noise of jarring sounds and necroscream is a heavy metal extension of that. Indeed, our guild tutor spontaneously headbangs from time to time. The lack of playable drums and guitars complicates things but since they have never been they can't really be missed.
jealousy abounds
And clearly you need to get friendly with the Harbingers, 'cause they have the Drums of the Dead right over their guildhall, which I'm sure you could use to create some epic-level awesomeness.
ELECTRIC LUTE SOLOOOOO!
Eventru2009-10-14 19:44:58
Totally unhelpful statement: Let's wrack and roll!
Ryleth2009-10-14 20:21:44
Heavy Metal? If Harbingers are all about the drumming pounding percussion, I saw the cacophony as more of a horn section, blaring out at intervals in discordant melodies and twisted fanfares- the like
Llandros2009-10-14 20:39:01
Pfft! Harbingers are emo teen angst music on a good day. Either that or they are like some hippie drum circle.
Regardless, the cacophony was inspired by metal music. I'm just trying to see how far we can take that theme before i start losing role points.
Edit: Jagrerox sometimes says wrack and roll when you try and talk to him.
Llandros2009-10-14 20:47:20
Iorden suggested that Heavy Metal could be the sounds of swords against armor or shields, just loud banging noises. Does that seem buyable?
Celina2009-10-14 20:54:49
Personally, I find "rock and roll" and "metal" to be completely out of place in a game like Lusternia. I'm not sure how it was "inspired" by heavy metal, but direct references would make me gag a little.
Whatever happened to the whole tainted carnival/freak show idea. Really the only idea I've seen that could have been interesting and passable. A bunch of head banging rock stars walking around a city of (supposed) nobles really seems...not okay.
Personally, I find "rock and roll" and "metal" to be completely out of place in a game like Lusternia. I'm not sure how it was "inspired" by heavy metal, but direct references would make me gag a little.
Whatever happened to the whole tainted carnival/freak show idea. Really the only idea I've seen that could have been interesting and passable. A bunch of head banging rock stars walking around a city of (supposed) nobles really seems...not okay.
That idea was shot down by the powers that be.
There is actually a lot more to this than i first thought when it was suggested. There are all kinds of sub-genres that i think we could work with none of them involved headbanging (in the privacy of the guild hall with Jagrerox would be ok though). It's more the raw feel of anger and destruction and production of metal performances and less emulating their specific behavior. Since there is no specific metal genre in lusternia for people to reference we can pick and choose to make our cacophony into what we want.
Lendren2009-10-14 21:51:30
It would sure be tempting to use the geomancy connection to invent the "rock music" thing, perhaps alluding to the sound of a landslide.
It's hard to imagine heavy metal without guitars. If you try to imagine the kind of shrill wailing sounds of a guitar solo transposed to violins, though, there's a lot to work with. I would suggest Berlioz's "Dream of a Witches Sabbath" for some inspiration. (Despite the subject matter which might seem to better suit Glomdoring, but the music not as much. For them, I'd suggest Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" instead.)
Of course, you do have Tainted Love. No matter how much you try to be all Iron Maiden at me, I'm always going to imagine Soft Cell instead. Give in to the new wave dance bop. You know you want to.
I love Jethro Tull. (Is he considered heavy metal?)
Alef2009-10-15 01:32:31
How we should be IMO
Lendren2009-10-15 01:33:43
Jethro Tull's neither heavy metal nor a he. It's a band, named for an inventor, but none of its members are named Jethro.
And feh! Ian Anderson's always my go-to example when you tell us you can't sing and play a wind instrument at the same time and I say yes you can. I figured you didn't know Tull so you wouldn't believe me!
As for heavy metal with a violin, one of my teenage guilty pleasures was Mama's Boys, whose cover of "Mama Weer All Crazee Now" was so much better than the insipid one Quiet Riot released in the same year. But I don't know how well that'd work for Cacophony. The point isn't finding violin in heavy metal, it's finding something that can be heavy metal with just violin (or the other four instruments we have), without guitars or anything even vaguely like a power chord. That's what led me to Berlioz and Stravinsky as more relevant than just finding an 80s hair band with a violin player.
I think you did a better job of proving in one post that a violin can't carry a metal melody (or, at least, the acoustic ones--the electric violin was kinda cool). They're all punctuated by cymbals, snare drums, and guitars. Everything on the violin is on counterpoint.
Unknown2009-10-15 02:15:20
When I thought about Cacophony I always had an image of lots of people playing the violin very badly in my head. Heavy metal violin sounds cool. But I dunno about referring to 'metal' and 'rock' in Lusternia, it just sounds not in its time.
Jethro Tull's neither heavy metal nor a he. It's a band, named for an inventor, but none of its members are named Jethro.
And feh! Ian Anderson's always my go-to example when you tell us you can't sing and play a wind instrument at the same time and I say yes you can. I figured you didn't know Tull so you wouldn't believe me!
As for heavy metal with a violin, one of my teenage guilty pleasures was Mama's Boys, whose cover of "Mama Weer All Crazee Now" was so much better than the insipid one Quiet Riot released in the same year. But I don't know how well that'd work for Cacophony. The point isn't finding violin in heavy metal, it's finding something that can be heavy metal with just violin (or the other four instruments we have), without guitars or anything even vaguely like a power chord. That's what led me to Berlioz and Stravinsky as more relevant than just finding an 80s hair band with a violin player.
Heh, yeah I know... I have several Jethro Tull albums and have seen them in concert a couple of times!
Hmm, according to the all-knowing wiki, they can be considered a "hard rock" band...
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