QUOTE (Estarra @ Nov 2 2009, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FYI, we have pretty much decided to implement most of what was on the original report. Within the next several weeks, we hope to complete this project so keep an eye out on the announce board!
good stuff 
So, I was bored and decided to visit the forums and I found this thread.
I like what I see of that announce post quoted above, looks like good ideas without much potential for people to whine about them. Always the best kind of changes
I also like the idea of the secondary affliction messages. I've always wanted to make a system, but I can't be bothered with tracking down and adding all 45478 lines for each affliction. Even my time is worth more then that, and back when I was playing, I would walk in 1.5 mile circles in my neighborhood for 1-2 hours a day for lack of anything better to do.
I've always hated demesnes, but I feel like if mages and druids continue to have and rely on them, they should be more useful then 10 rooms and adjacent room effects would allow, so I don't like the suggested ideas for demesnes. I think someone mentioned the idea of having the effects follow the person around, rather then requiring a demesne. That would make being a mage/druid a lot more tolerable I think. Code-wise it might be able to be done by attaching the effects to the person, rather then the room, so a room doesn't have to 'belong' to anyone. Every tick it checks adjacent rooms for people enemied/declared/standing in the correct terrain/whatever. Message-wise it can still look like its coming from the room.
Just my random thoughts that are probably irrelevant by now anyway (just need to kill some time before Survivor comes on)
I like what I see of that announce post quoted above, looks like good ideas without much potential for people to whine about them. Always the best kind of changes
I also like the idea of the secondary affliction messages. I've always wanted to make a system, but I can't be bothered with tracking down and adding all 45478 lines for each affliction. Even my time is worth more then that, and back when I was playing, I would walk in 1.5 mile circles in my neighborhood for 1-2 hours a day for lack of anything better to do.
I've always hated demesnes, but I feel like if mages and druids continue to have and rely on them, they should be more useful then 10 rooms and adjacent room effects would allow, so I don't like the suggested ideas for demesnes. I think someone mentioned the idea of having the effects follow the person around, rather then requiring a demesne. That would make being a mage/druid a lot more tolerable I think. Code-wise it might be able to be done by attaching the effects to the person, rather then the room, so a room doesn't have to 'belong' to anyone. Every tick it checks adjacent rooms for people enemied/declared/standing in the correct terrain/whatever. Message-wise it can still look like its coming from the room.
Just my random thoughts that are probably irrelevant by now anyway (just need to kill some time before Survivor comes on
)QUOTE (Zarquan @ Oct 15 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's talk about further redundancies and the high entry cost:
Lusternia kept probably 90% of the afflictions from the Achaea base, and over the years has about tripled the count by adding in so many unique, flavor things. The flavor is great, but the complexity is astounding. There are probably a dozen afflictions that prevent a person from standing, at least a half dozen that keeps him from eating or drinking. Instead of just anorexia, asthma, paralysis, and slickness, we have to deal with things like a crushed windpipe, homeostasis, scarab beetles, a locked throat, a severed spine, etc, etc, etc.
- Three forms of impalement: crucify, pinleg, gut impale. These can be stacked, of course, and each of them is also very hindering.
- Slit throat and crushed windpipe. Do virtually the same thing and can be stacked, preventing eating, smoking, drinking, and speaking.
- Stupidity and void. Void is just stupidity with a higher chance to trip you up. The cure is even the same.
- Aeon, sap, and choke. Three forms of slowing a person down means three special cases I have to code in my combat system for dealing with all the things that are preventing me from curing them.
- Paralysis and severed spine.
- Dealing with incurable room-wide things that require you (or the person controlling the effect) to leave the room: aurawarp/homeostasis, octave/maestoso, recessional, etc. These are all special cases for curing.
Lusternia kept probably 90% of the afflictions from the Achaea base, and over the years has about tripled the count by adding in so many unique, flavor things. The flavor is great, but the complexity is astounding. There are probably a dozen afflictions that prevent a person from standing, at least a half dozen that keeps him from eating or drinking. Instead of just anorexia, asthma, paralysis, and slickness, we have to deal with things like a crushed windpipe, homeostasis, scarab beetles, a locked throat, a severed spine, etc, etc, etc.
Yeah i hear THAT, making my system cure all of those was a time consuming excercise in logic and the whole 'brackets within brackets' thing, which I no longer do cause I know better these days
The game could be way better streamlined in small steps, and this is one of them. Make curing lines simpler and more specific, when you apply regen to legs, have a message that tells you right away what leg it's healing (leave the delayed cure in, I like that). Weapon attacks especially should be 100% obvious and specific (Murphy swings his mighty hammer of awesome at you. The hammer hits your right leg and breaks it)
As for the current state of illusions? I think it should be left as it is. It was said previously in this thread that wah wah illusions are hard. They are SUPPOSED to be. Being able to code a system is something any idiot can do if they put their mind to it. Coding a system that doesn't get locked up, caters for illusions and does the simple things like resets cure list on diag, and makes sure you've sent the command to apply health to legs before it'll accept a healed message.
If you wanted to streamline afflictions, remove the potion balance (eg phlegmatic potions) and have it either smoke eat or apply, and allow old-school IRE affliction locks (slickness asthma anorexia). I like the complexity of lusternia's affliction system, however some things just need to be streamlined a bit.
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Nov 19 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*trueheal/lich/choke/...resurgem? comment here*
Personally, I'd just delete Glomdoring, that pox upon the e-world.
Personally, I'd just delete Glomdoring, that pox upon the e-world.
your also attempting to deflect with
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