There is about as much evidence for dark matter as there are for electrons. Do you not think electrons exist, Drae?

All of you are nerds. That is all.

Nerd power represent!


So anyway, how about that Lusternia, huh?

But isn't that kind of what magic is? I think the problem we may be having here is a difference in definition, which I suppose is my fault. I always forget to set definitions before getting into it >_>
According to the ever ready and very credible (ha) Dictionary.com:

Magic- The art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Just because it's "Magic" doesn't mean someone can't learn to control it. Look at Merlin. He's a human, he learned to. I could say that those who don't understand Magic in the stories are simply undergoing a personal failing. My toungue-in-cheek point (C'mon people, settle down. Be rationale, not insulting) was that people tend to accept an explanation of science like people used to accept an explanation of magic (or in some cases, divine intervention).

Compare
"Well, stars hang in the night sky because chi, when gathered in enough quantity, leaks from a person in an invisible manifestation that over life's history has created a large force that gathers around the entirety of the planet, and in places in the sky where it is especially strong, it manifests as points of light....."

with

"A star begins as a collapsing cloud of material composed primarily of hydrogen, along with helium and trace amounts of heavier elements. Once the stellar core is sufficiently dense, some of the hydrogen is steadily converted into helium through the process of nuclear fusion. The remainder of the star's interior carries energy away from the core through a combination of radiative and convective processes. The star's internal pressure prevents it from collapsing further under its own gravity..."

Regardless of truth, most people's eyes are going to glass over and they will just nod along, accepting whatever the scientist (or magician) says as truth. And if you disagree, when was the last time you personally tested a scientific theory? Hundred bucks says you take their word for it every time.

Sorry, that is simply not true. No direct evidence yet exists, though it may be coming soon. Again, not so with electrons.

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=80150

Maybe I need to define Direct evidence as well?

You probably do. Your definition is very likely different than the person who studies nuclear physics.

Let's put it this way. Current evidence for Dark Matter is Corroborating evidence, not Direct evidence. Two entirely separate things.

String theory is much the same. No direct evidence exists, no matter how pretty the math is, or how much we want it to be true.

I do All this stuff I parrot is born from classroom discussion, have no fear. Running physics joke is that Quantum physics tends to run more in the field of philosophy then science.

I know that in my field that you will never be able to witness any of the stuff. Ever. (Well, at least in my lifetime.) But we know it's right. It just works.

I use the "it's magic" all the time at work when people who are not tech savvy ask me how freakishly complicated things work. It's either that or try to explain it to them which will, likely as not, end up with me cutting them.

God made it all.

Yesterday. I can tell you without a shred of doubt that genetic theory correctly predicted all of my results.

Tuesday was when I verified that what scientists say about the behavior of current in certain circuits is true.

You can only say that if you can prove that God exists. You aren't allowed to talk about religion here
even if you could prove that God exists with your argument. Since your argument doesn't exist
here I'll just have to assume God doesn't exist here, and therefore your statement is false and
should be retracted.

Well fine, but you know what I can prove?

Ha! I'm going to use that one.

There is a God, and Her name is Eris. You're all behaving like cabbages, so let's keep this thread on track.

MAGIC!

Point well taken. Genetics does indeed seem to be the only field extensively tested by general youth of the world.

But, beyond that small hiccup, I think the debate is pretty well ironed out, thanks to the intervention of everyone's friendly neighborhood divine. Now, Can we please do the same kind of discussion IC? I would love a good discussion. 'Twould be "Magical"!

Bring it on. It'll give me good reason to dig through my dusty archives of planar theory

Pft, try playing with the bonds in minerals and rocks. So many things get shown that way.

Melting rocks = cool!
Growing crystal structures = awesome!

Totally magic how they break down and grow.