Yes really. Log in more and for longer.

Glom's more or less lost the past 2-3 weeks worth of revolts. Or at least we haven't been able to get both villages.

Which arguably shouldn't happen at all. The village system probably needs a rework once gaudi and halli are up and running. Deathmap, signature race charisma differences, incumbant org able to more easily do prep work all sorta make things "special" at times.

I miss that map.

Glom doesn't even have the death map... we're winning just fine without it, if the revolts happen when we're awake.

I await the next argument now.

It was a general framed statement not targetted at an org. It worked well for Seren too.

And yet, you're not? You and Shuyin need to get your stories straight.

We have different definitions of fine. You should re-read his statement again, in terms of "not getting both villages". Winning a village out of a 6-way free-for-all is pretty good, and obviously has nothing to do with the death map.

It means that we still do good even without the map, if the revolt happens in a good time (we can snag two villages).

In regards to "super orgs" and revolts:

Magnagora has plenty of people on its own, and the recent clot of favours that occurred with ascension is more likely to do good than buying select citizens reincarnations.

I don't get this "incumbent advantage" thing. It doesn't exist unless the incumbents actually care to ensure they keep the village. Are you saying an organization with people willing to sit in the village for hours on end waiting don't deserve an edge? I think it's more fair to just call them names and say they don't have lives and get over yourself.

What's being said (and has been done), is melding the village shortly before the revolt.

Which, as I noted, generally results in sitting there, waiting for hours. It is quite conceivable for whatever melder is there to get fed up and dissolve, then QQ, only for the revolt to occur shortly thereafter. Or some time while they are asleep. It is a shot in the dark, and only has as much weight as the number of people you have who might be willing to do this.

I think it is Celest, that has a CHELP list of when villages are supposed to revolt- and it's accurate to within two hours either way, most of the time. It is possible to time it, and many orgs have, in the past, done so...

Then they can make their method public, and make it an issue thus.

Pretty sure the method was just to plot how long between revolts of the same kind (Estelbar always revolting during Eroee or whatever it is, too), and add the average length between revolts to the last known revolt. Not too hard, just time-consuming.

We have a CLHELP file for our influence brigade, which predicts it within a (rl) day. There's not really a tight pattern beyond that that I can find. It's pretty much every 7-8 days. Dairuchi > Moors > Orc-Furrikin > Hemp Wars > Mountain Wars > Dairuchi

Have you ever been a melder?

It's much more conceivable for them to go meld, turn demesne watch on, and go do something entirely different until the revolt starts. There's no need to actually sit with the demesne.

So you're saying premelding isn't even work at all and anyone can do it. Therefore, it's not a factor like the death map.

Gotcha.

In their defense, sometimes revolts happen at 5-6 pm my time after I'm done with work. Which is what, 5-6 am for them? That means they've been up all night just waiting for it to happen.

Yes, thank you for pointing out that no one has accuracy down to a two hour window. I'm still not going to believe it until someone actually produces it for us all to see.

I guess, if you really want to, you can make claimed villages not count as enemy territory for enemies of the org with control? Assuming you are willing to stomach the ill effects that come with such a decision outside of revolts.

This is still going on? That's some lolz.