Daganev2009-12-16 17:18:43
QUOTE (Tervic @ Dec 16 2009, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Romertien tried to rush night after relatively little discussion. Prior to page 12, I think, and when we were still a very very long way from consensus.
Plus, his avatar is a hippo.
Plus, his avatar is a hippo.
Granted and agreed, but why is that making you more suspicious of him than all the other people being voted on right now?
Dugan2009-12-16 18:45:49
In light of some recent posts and for whatever it might be worth. I am getting a little suspicious of Silferras. We are currently talking about having one vote on people and after 25 pages, why they have that one vote on someone, or worse not voting at all.
Three pages ago, on page 22 I switched the only vote on Kira to another and Silf calls me out on it. Accuses me of jumping on a bandwagon and then refuses to answer my questions to her about it. When Dag mentions Shiri did the same thing, she falls silent on that too.
Two days ago Silf tried to make this an issue, now others are saying some of the things I said two days ago. Fault me for being an donkey folks, I sure am that, never said I wasn't. But I want to hear what she has to say to my two above posts in quotes.
Three pages ago, on page 22 I switched the only vote on Kira to another and Silf calls me out on it. Accuses me of jumping on a bandwagon and then refuses to answer my questions to her about it. When Dag mentions Shiri did the same thing, she falls silent on that too.
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Dec 14 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Silf, I have a question for you. You've been playing mafia games for a while so I know your smarter than this. I have two votes on me. No where near close to being lynched. I don't even consider two votes any kind of pressure when we need seven. Wait, before Silf tries another derail, I have three votes now cause of Shiri. Still don't consider three votes any kind of pressure on day 1 and not sure why you are bringing up jumping on a bandwagon. I don't even see how you can call what is on Shiri a bandwagon when his votes have been there for rl days. So Silf, whats your game ... or are your panties all tied in a knot cause I used the term Sheeple.
(Though I did get a laugh out of Tervicle. That one still cracks me up.)
(Though I did get a laugh out of Tervicle. That one still cracks me up.)
QUOTE (Dugan Diluculo @ Dec 14 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and anther thing Silf. I still don't believe Kira, but I also had the last vote still on her. No one was going to agree with me and lynch her on day one, so why should I keep my vote there and prevent the game from moving forward? I could sit on my hands, left my vote on Kira and done nothing ... but then nothing would have gotten accomplished either.
@Tervic
Nothing but love brother, nothing but love. =)
@Tervic
Nothing but love brother, nothing but love. =)
Two days ago Silf tried to make this an issue, now others are saying some of the things I said two days ago. Fault me for being an donkey folks, I sure am that, never said I wasn't. But I want to hear what she has to say to my two above posts in quotes.
Tervic2009-12-16 18:50:01
QUOTE (daganev @ Dec 16 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Granted and agreed, but why is that making you more suspicious of him than all the other people being voted on right now?
Part of it is insufficient time to dissect all the arguments, part of it is that I'm still a mafia noob, part of it is that I don't think that making mistakes qualifies as scum. In short, I'm just going with the brightest, most obvious blip on my radar. I think Shiri's third on my list.
Rika2009-12-16 20:37:09
Gah, was confusing myself with Mog and Strago. Sorry.
And isn't it obvious why I'm voting for Casilu? I'd rather give Shiri a chance to steal Aqua Rake than not.
And isn't it obvious why I'm voting for Casilu? I'd rather give Shiri a chance to steal Aqua Rake than not.
Casilu2009-12-16 20:43:07
QUOTE (rika @ Dec 16 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gah, was confusing myself with Mog and Strago. Sorry.
And isn't it obvious why I'm voting for Casilu? I'd rather give Shiri a chance to steal Aqua Rake than not.
And isn't it obvious why I'm voting for Casilu? I'd rather give Shiri a chance to steal Aqua Rake than not.
He is currently one vote away from being lynched. If that happens, then I won't have to roleblock him!
I can roleblock someone else like... Furien or Kira.
Or I wonder if I can use my night action to spend some time with you, baby. You won't get a night action, but you won't want one.
Rika2009-12-16 21:26:25
I don't have a night action so you could say I'm available.
Casilu2009-12-16 21:31:56
QUOTE (rika @ Dec 16 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have a night action so you could say I'm available.
Sounds like you want to be the empowerer of my stunner.
Kiradawea2009-12-16 23:06:11
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Dec 13 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ahem. Daganev.
There. That's the timing of two of my posts. (I removed the contents because the focus is on the time) One made before the discussion of using Rika's Quadraslam where I mention I'll try to return as quick as I can.
The post afterwards is the moment I returned, as I had no prior chance to even get on internet, much even read up on the game. I was not a part of the discussion. I had no chance. Saying that I was a part of the discussion is just blatantly false.
And really, am I the only one who noticed how quickly the Quadraslice triggered? If it had been activated at any other time, people would actually be given a chance to unvote, but as it is it breezed by. Even more I don't like how from what I see the hinting only begun towards the end (end?). No indication, Shiri is the only one who gets a chance to unvote and bam, a list full of potential suspects for the town to toy with.
tl;dr
I never got a chance to unvote.
Rika didn't give people enough time to unvote.
I suspect Rika Quadraslammed, not Quadraslice.
Vote: Rika
There. That's the timing of two of my posts. (I removed the contents because the focus is on the time) One made before the discussion of using Rika's Quadraslam where I mention I'll try to return as quick as I can.
The post afterwards is the moment I returned, as I had no prior chance to even get on internet, much even read up on the game. I was not a part of the discussion. I had no chance. Saying that I was a part of the discussion is just blatantly false.
And really, am I the only one who noticed how quickly the Quadraslice triggered? If it had been activated at any other time, people would actually be given a chance to unvote, but as it is it breezed by. Even more I don't like how from what I see the hinting only begun towards the end (end?). No indication, Shiri is the only one who gets a chance to unvote and bam, a list full of potential suspects for the town to toy with.
tl;dr
I never got a chance to unvote.
Rika didn't give people enough time to unvote.
I suspect Rika Quadraslammed, not Quadraslice.
Vote: Rika
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Dec 14 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While potentially true, it makes for a poor defense because you would be perfectly capable of saying "I can use my Quadraslice to a great effect by eliminating scum, since if noone votes, both scum will have a 50% chance of being killed" or something similar. Only a blatant mod copout would make that lose your power, since it can easily be formulated in a way to make it not appear useful. Even more so, it'd create a discussion around it through which we could get to join in on the decision to use said power. You acted alone and in a manner that ultimately proved to be harmful to town by killing off one of the townies.
There. That's my reasoning for focusing on Rika at the moment.
And feel free to roleblock me. I ain't got no night-action anyway so it'll do me no harm.
Casilu2009-12-16 23:07:49
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Dec 16 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There. That's my reasoning for focusing on Rika at the moment.
And feel free to roleblock me. I ain't got no night-action anyway so it'll do me no harm.
And feel free to roleblock me. I ain't got no night-action anyway so it'll do me no harm.
That's why I named those three secondary targets, they have no night actions normally.
Kiradawea2009-12-16 23:11:03
Oh no. You're not allowed to roleblock me. You're way too scary. *peer*
Kiradawea2009-12-16 23:12:11
And before you guys go crazy. That's a joke. This is a game. It's not meant to be dead serious.
Daganev2009-12-16 23:32:12
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Dec 16 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There. That's my reasoning for focusing on Rika at the moment.
There has been 5 pages of conversation since then...
Casilu2009-12-16 23:32:13
I've come to believe that my roleblocking action is chloroform.
Daganev2009-12-16 23:33:11
QUOTE (casilu @ Dec 16 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've come to believe that my roleblocking action is chloroform.
It's a "flash bulb"
I'll let you read that as dirty as you like.
Kiradawea2009-12-16 23:36:01
QUOTE (daganev @ Dec 17 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There has been 5 pages of conversation since then...
But nothing to make me consider anyone more suspicious than Rika. Her behaviour seems similar to that of a scum to me. Yeah, there's many people who are off and avoidant, but she still stands out the most I feel.
Tervic2009-12-17 00:20:43
QUOTE (daganev @ Dec 16 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a "flash bulb"
I'll let you read that as dirty as you like.
I'll let you read that as dirty as you like.
You mean a trenchcoat?
Casilu2009-12-17 00:28:21
QUOTE (Tervic @ Dec 16 2009, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean a trenchcoat?
Flash! A-ah! Savoir of the Mafia Game!
Tervic2009-12-17 05:23:04
QUOTE (Kiradawea @ Dec 16 2009, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh no. You're not allowed to roleblock me. You're way too scary. *peer*
Your role as a female of the human species has been blocked.
Unknown2009-12-17 12:45:42
@Dugan: I'll admit that I got sidetracked at the time by various things, so I'll try to address the posts you pointed out now. Irrelevant banter bits edited out.
I'm not sure what you're trying to read into my posts or what I was trying to derail - I'm not trying to pressure you into anything (especially since we know all the roles), just calling out actions I felt were backed by scummy motivations.
Action number one was keeping your vote on and gunning for Kiradawea until it was obvious no one was going to back you up, even though multiple people unvoted with the explanation that they weren't willing to risk losing Aqua Rake on Day 1 despite thinking Kiradawea suspicious. You didn't acknowledge this part at all, to my knowledge, even till now, which makes me think you want to get those votes back on her as quickly as possible by calling out your 'gut'-based suspicions but skimming over her very useful power. Remind me again, did your reasons for thinking her scummy change to anything more concrete, or were you still 'going with your gut'?
Second, maybe 'largest vote train' instead of 'largest bandwagon' would have been a better word choice on my part. Which leads us to your next post:
We (that includes me) do agree with you on her.. suspiciousness, just not with your insistence of lynching her on Day 1 (still no sign of acknowledging her non-replaceable power here - completely slipped the mind, or purposefully glossing it over?). What I object to is that you bandwagoned on the largest vote train - Shiri, at this point - without even a hint of having examined Daganev's or Casilu's arguments, with the sole reason of wanting to move on to night as soon as possible ("The day is stalling out."). Do you even think that Shiri is scum, or, as I'm seeing it, are you just trying to get someone lynched regardless of whether you think they're scummy or not? What are you trying to accomplish here?
QUOTE (Dugan)
Silf, I have a question for you. You've been playing mafia games for a while so I know your smarter than this. I have two votes on me. No where near close to being lynched. I don't even consider two votes any kind of pressure when we need seven. Wait, before Silf tries another derail, I have three votes now cause of Shiri. Still don't consider three votes any kind of pressure on day 1 and not sure why you are bringing up jumping on a bandwagon. I don't even see how you can call what is on Shiri a bandwagon when his votes have been there for rl days. So Silf, whats your game ... or are your panties all tied in a knot cause I used the term Sheeple.
I'm not sure what you're trying to read into my posts or what I was trying to derail - I'm not trying to pressure you into anything (especially since we know all the roles), just calling out actions I felt were backed by scummy motivations.
Action number one was keeping your vote on and gunning for Kiradawea until it was obvious no one was going to back you up, even though multiple people unvoted with the explanation that they weren't willing to risk losing Aqua Rake on Day 1 despite thinking Kiradawea suspicious. You didn't acknowledge this part at all, to my knowledge, even till now, which makes me think you want to get those votes back on her as quickly as possible by calling out your 'gut'-based suspicions but skimming over her very useful power. Remind me again, did your reasons for thinking her scummy change to anything more concrete, or were you still 'going with your gut'?
Second, maybe 'largest vote train' instead of 'largest bandwagon' would have been a better word choice on my part. Which leads us to your next post:
QUOTE (Dugan)
Oh and anther thing Silf. I still don't believe Kira, but I also had the last vote still on her. No one was going to agree with me and lynch her on day one, so why should I keep my vote there and prevent the game from moving forward? I could sit on my hands, left my vote on Kira and done nothing ... but then nothing would have gotten accomplished either.
We (that includes me) do agree with you on her.. suspiciousness, just not with your insistence of lynching her on Day 1 (still no sign of acknowledging her non-replaceable power here - completely slipped the mind, or purposefully glossing it over?). What I object to is that you bandwagoned on the largest vote train - Shiri, at this point - without even a hint of having examined Daganev's or Casilu's arguments, with the sole reason of wanting to move on to night as soon as possible ("The day is stalling out."). Do you even think that Shiri is scum, or, as I'm seeing it, are you just trying to get someone lynched regardless of whether you think they're scummy or not? What are you trying to accomplish here?
Xavius2009-12-17 14:55:26
We've had requests for a deadline, and posting speed is starting to dwindle, so I'm going to go along with that now.
Deadline is in 36 hours, and if one player has a clear plurality of the votes, that player will be lynched.
Deadline is in 36 hours, and if one player has a clear plurality of the votes, that player will be lynched.