Just as a devil's advocate comment, he smashed Furien, who was on track to be lynched anyways. However, I agree on all other counts.

Vote: timdnSiam

Mebbe, but it was still out of the blue.

Sorry, got the r and the k mixed up.

Unvote: Kira
Vote: Rika.

Siam just did an FOS on Rika. IMO, Rika pulled the OMGUS by jumping on the vote to Siam. His assessment does make some sense. By going off what people have posted about their night actions ... like Silf did when my protect got misdirected.

I still say we lynch the mod.

What's the votecount, anyways?

Siam has Rika, Kira, and Tervic
Rika has Siam and Dugan

There is a minor mistake in that assessment. If Kefka is someone with a night action, it is actually quite likely that he'd spend his nights on the night action, rather than dousing others because he knew that I'd eventually go and Rake the Aqua. Siam however, still smashed Furien (which was bad anyway, cause I finally managed to convince a friend to try and take up one of the "vacant" spots. Is there anyone else who'd is not playing) without anyone saying so. No matter what, a trigger-happy day-vig is dangerous.

... what is an "OMGUS"?

OMGUS - Oh My God U Suck.

Hmm. Rika does seem more suspicious to me, especially with the reactionary vote. But I don't want to drop a lynch just yet, or risk it. Siam, assuming two more days pass, who would you consider smashing next? Curious.

I am actually a bit amazed he is talking heat from smashing Furien, considering what little he contributed to the game and to the fact that Furien was even voting to take himself out of the game.

*makes cricket noises and waits to hear a response to this*

Uh huh. Well, if you deign to read several pages back, given the information from the night action reports, it was pretty obvious that Shaddus was scum. Given he was roleblocked by BOTH roleblockers and no one died. And what you have said if I asked town? Smash Tervic instead? Since you were 'sure that Tervic was kefka'. And really now, would you have me smash someone else instead? Furien was practically begging to be lynched, would you have opted to make me someone else instead? If so, then who? Pray tell me you had someone better in your mind than Furien just then. Would you have wasted a lynch and end up with nothing productive on Furien instead? Really now, my intent when I smashed Furien was to conserve the lynch. What have we gained with Furien being eliminated from the game despite him being town?

a.)We got rid of suspicions that arose from him being mysterious throughout the game
b.)We got rid of someone who hasn't contributed anything at all throughout the game
c.)Oh, and I believe I've said this, but whatever, I'll say it again: WE CONSERVED A LYNCH = Prolonging the Day = Delaying Kefka's nightly dousing

Oh, and Kira. If I remember it correctly, you said the following:

Smash the Kefka (referring to Tervic)

Do note that this happened at the same time when Casilu/Dylara(?) roleblocked Shaddus and no one turned up dead. The scenario was:



Really now, Kira. The above gives me pause when it comes to trusting your conclusions now.

Tervic: refer to my posts above this one. But basically the point was to not waste a lynch on someone who was basically asking for it.



Uh, no. It was not out of the blue. If you are talking about the other points I raised on that post I made 2~3 days ago, it was drawn from what has transpired during the few days that the game has been going on.




This was the point. Furien voted for himself. I'd really rather not waste a lynch on someone who's resigned to die.



This was what I was thinking, too. I was surprised why she retaliated with a vote rather than countering all points I raised against her in that post.



Uh huh. I'm not saying this is not possible. But:
1.) You didn't say that you were trying to convince this friend of yours to play. If you were really interested in seeing Furien leave, you should've mentioned it.
2.) I think using the aqua rake just earlier in the day was a bad idea for town. I mean, we're on day 4. Only 3 nights have passed. Kefka can only douse one person a night. Who's to say that the people he's doused aren't one of those already dead? Who's to say his dousings have failed due to protections? As you can see, those who can watch, protect, and redirect have done interweaving watches, protects, and redirects, so if any of them were doused, the chance of it being detected would've been high.
3.) I was hoping you'd rake a little later into the game. Aqua rake was pretty much our only hope against that arsonist. If you were really interested in saving everyone, you'd have waited a little long, given that it could only be used once, and not used it too early in the game.



I'd go by the list I made and smash Rika first, plus given her 'eactionary vote' I'm more inclined to smash her. Besides, given the list of innocent people who've died via her swordtechs, she's more of a priority to me than smashing Kira, who has been giving me an odd feeling at the moment.

Kira couldn't really save the aqua rake any longer. Since someone called for it to be used, Kefka would have been aware that if it wasn't used today, it would have been used tomorrow and killed the doused people tonight.

Yeah, I don't think revealing our hand in that this early was a good idea (who did that, again?), but Xavius's effect message sounded pretty promising to me. Rika's probably right about Kefka igniting tonight if we didn't rake, so we'll just have to try to get him lynched or killed before he can build up any significant number of douses.

Contrary to what Kira seems to be implying, Siam doesn't appear 'trigger-happy' to me. He made a good move killing Shaddus and smashed Furien, who we would have lynched anyway, and at the same time eliminated that one possibility along with giving us another chance to lynch today, as he mentioned above. It was obvious to me pre-smash that Furien was either scum and bored, or town and not paying attention, so no loss either way.

On another note, can we get modly confirmation on whether Rika's swordtech (specifically Quadraslam and Quadraslice) automatically exempts herself from the 'parties' involved?

Hmm, it seems that my earlier posts have many spelling errors Man, I need to sleep MORE.

Since all of our roles are posted, Kefka knew from day 1 that Aqua Rake could be used at any time. Its not like it would have been a surprise. Just because someone called for it to be used doesn't mean it would have. We still had me to protect her and our mis-director to deflect anything from her, both of which have been done since night one.

Hmm. Alright.

Vote: Rika

Rika's not affected by her own swordtech, no. I posted that somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go quote myself.