Swiftwind and illwind aren't equivalents to malus if that's what you're implying. It's a flat removal of less than a second off of your next balance/eq use if you're the controller or an ally.. or addition of less than a half second on to your next balance/eq use if you're an enemy. I believe it's -/+ 0.2? Ciaran and I were discussing figures of moving it up to 0.5 or some such rubbish.

If you're SUGGESTING they become equivalents.. well, by all means, please support that. I'd love to see it happen.


edit: my complaint is that Aeromancy doesn't look strong on the 1v1 scale, but I guess that's my personal preference and I should take steps to change that by either a class change or just sucking it up. I still think Aeromancy is just very underwhelming in our current situation and state.

That's because it is, you have an org with only one guild's worth of skills with nothing else to synergy along with it outside of aeromancy.

Basically, yeah. I think I said it last page, we're brilliant support - Esano said it too. But uh.. with no other guilds to support..

.2 is about equivalent to a level 1 malus on a standard eq, these days. Bonuses/maluses, I'm told, are at 8% per level, so a level 1 malus would add about .3 to a 4s bal or eq. There are few skills that have longer bals or eqs than that, and a set change will become more noticeable at shorter eqs - your illusions will be far faster than most if you're getting even a half-second bonus, for instance. Either way, my point stands: it may not seem like much, but it'll certainly build up over a fight to a decided (dis)advantage.

And I still disagree with you.

Hey, you have a potential 20 other guilds to support (I'm excluding pyros).

I suppose I just need to play with it more, then. I was under the impression that a malus or bonus would be a bit more, though?

They were nerfed in old racial rebalances.

try 5.....Hallifax has sealed its fate.

Because non-aggression treaties are so sealing-of-fate.

That, and it's looking like Celest is going to be in need of good relations with somebody soon. Further, I don't see Serenwilde going after Hallifax. So, that's a good 15.

Mag's been doing the whole "we're going to be buddy-buddy with Gaudi and raid Hallifax realm," so those 5 are probably out, though Esano could always decide (for some reason) to go neutral with both for a while. Who knows.

I know you like to see things from a specific angle, but it's not really so cut-and-dry as all that at the moment.

I haven't seen Mag cause any trouble yet - just Narsrim and Hallifax having a little misunderstanding last night.

Serenwilde won't ally with Hallifax due to Glomdoring allying with Hallifax. By allying with Hallifax you have basically said 'This is an extension of us', which the rest of the basin is going to respond to as well, we don't want anyone helping Glom either...Mag is set to kill Hallifax due to this. I don't see celest wanting to ally with Hallifax either if Glomdoring keeps beating on them. The actions of an org -can- disrupt other places...your 'Non agression' treaty is a 'We will defend you and give you domoth blessing' treaty

Edit@Rod: You mean the Misunderstanding of Hallifax cowing down to Narsrim's threats?

Narsrim? A little misunderstanding?

Munsia, how do you feed yourself? Or does someone just sort of push your face into the bowl?

Except that we haven't actually allied with them (see: Veyrzhul defending Celest. Though the weird thing is that he defends Celest like, 10,000x more than he defends Hallifax)

Non-aggression, and if you guys are curb-stomping their stuff they can ask for some help in stopping it. But, I don't see Serenwilde joining in your games, and I don't see Hallifax joining in attacks on Seren. They're mostly trying to stay neutral here.

I was originally planning to have Mag stay neutral, at least for a while. But then Hallifax attacking Narsrim (and trying to blame him or make excuses) plus some other stuff has soured that some.

I said I wasn't sure who attacked first, if that helps any. I'm pretty sure Arte jumped the gun and a couple people tried to psyvamp train Narsrim because he was standing RIGHT THERE in the room with a bunch of Gaudiguch raiders. I hesitated to attack because I wasn't sure what was up between Halli and Mag.

Well, Magnagora & Gaudiguch VS Hallifax & Glomdoring VS Celest & Serenwilde is something new, I guess. (Assuming it pans out that way. Which it might not. I'm sure Celest will find a way to make the merian noise no matter what happens, though.)

EDIT: Kinda surprised, though, I was thinkin' based on the histories it'd be Magnagora & Hallifax VS Celest & Gaudiguch with Seren/Glom maintaining (relative) neutrality while they scramble for each others throats. I still daydream about that political team-up... maybe one day it'll be a reality, yo.

Fishy fishy fishy fishy

Narsrim is standing with Munsia while she is raiding. HMM!

Yeah, I have to say, Narsrim in another org's territory. Standing with Munsia, Vathael, Layne (were there others? Those were the ones I saw on deathsight). While they're raiding.

The absolute last thing that would enter into my mind at this point is "Maybe he's not raiding!"

Cows always move in herds.

And as the alliances are panning out, I might just have to go to Hallifax for a change of pace. Gaudiguch might be same stuff, different place.