Gleip2010-03-31 00:34:54
So here is why you guys are bloody morons.
First of all, I've already said that I'm posing as a Wraith Queen, shock and surprise, I am investigated as a Wraith.
Second of all, I'm the one who saved Tekora's sorry hide while you guys were all to eager to blindly follow Shaddus' (lack of) reasoning.
Thirdly.
Oh em gee. The power to appear innocent. Wait, wasn't there another one with a similar power to this? Oh right. Our Serial Killer. Do I need to draw you a diagram, or do you have the braincells to rub together to get to the correct conclusion? Just remember, I'm not the one who killed off two of our smartest townies.
Also, from what I recall, none of you appear to be lifeless withered husks. But sure, go ahead and keep shooting your bloody idiotic selves into oblivion.
First of all, I've already said that I'm posing as a Wraith Queen, shock and surprise, I am investigated as a Wraith.
Second of all, I'm the one who saved Tekora's sorry hide while you guys were all to eager to blindly follow Shaddus' (lack of) reasoning.
Thirdly.
QUOTE
You are Replicator Carter, a copy--made up of self-replicating nanites--of a member of Stargate Command's SG-1 team. Your foray into the Pegasus Galaxy has somehow dropped you off in this alternate reality.
During the night, you may talk to your fellow Replicators.
If the group chooses you as the killer for the night, send a PM to TERMINATE (target).
Due to your likeness to Samantha Carter, you appear to be aligned with the Humans. You win with the Replicators.
During the night, you may talk to your fellow Replicators.
If the group chooses you as the killer for the night, send a PM to TERMINATE (target).
Due to your likeness to Samantha Carter, you appear to be aligned with the Humans. You win with the Replicators.
Oh em gee. The power to appear innocent. Wait, wasn't there another one with a similar power to this? Oh right. Our Serial Killer. Do I need to draw you a diagram, or do you have the braincells to rub together to get to the correct conclusion? Just remember, I'm not the one who killed off two of our smartest townies.
Also, from what I recall, none of you appear to be lifeless withered husks. But sure, go ahead and keep shooting your bloody idiotic selves into oblivion.
Unknown2010-03-31 00:56:57
I agree with Gleip, above, it doesn't clear Vendetta as he could appear innocent on investigation.
Silferras could be non-town and have kill resistance. She could very well be our town roleblocker, though.
I'll go ahead and claim. I'm THE Doctor. I'm Carolyn Lam (from SG1).
Also, Vendetta, I forget if you've claimed. Please refresh memory. At this point, basically everyone has claimed.
What does it mean that he's claimed/demonstrated french vanilla townie....?
Silferras could be non-town and have kill resistance. She could very well be our town roleblocker, though.
I'll go ahead and claim. I'm THE Doctor. I'm Carolyn Lam (from SG1).
Also, Vendetta, I forget if you've claimed. Please refresh memory. At this point, basically everyone has claimed.
What does it mean that he's claimed/demonstrated french vanilla townie....?
Unknown2010-03-31 01:00:00
SGC, sorry. Don't know what SG1 is...
Eldanien2010-03-31 01:01:41
This is getting suspenseful. I want to comment, but I'm no longer playing.
Unknown2010-03-31 01:48:54
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 30 2010, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The power to appear innocent. Wait, wasn't there another one with a similar power to this? Oh right. Our Serial Killer.
Really? Hmm.
QUOTE
QUOTE ("Xavius's role")
You are Aiden Ford, presumed dead and cast aside by the Atlantis Expedition. But now is your chance to show them, show everyone. It'll be tough, but you have guns. Lots of guns.
You are resistant to being killed at night.
Send a PM at night to kill with one of the following weapons:
SHOOT (target) with an FN P90 gun.
BLAST (target) with a Goa'uld staff weapon.
ZAT (target) with a Goa'uld Zat'nik'tel.
BAYONET (target) with a Wraith stunner rifle.
Each weapon has an unlimited number of discharges, but you can only use one weapon a night.
You appear to win with the Lost Boys. You win when everyone else is killed.
You are Aiden Ford, presumed dead and cast aside by the Atlantis Expedition. But now is your chance to show them, show everyone. It'll be tough, but you have guns. Lots of guns.
You are resistant to being killed at night.
Send a PM at night to kill with one of the following weapons:
SHOOT (target) with an FN P90 gun.
BLAST (target) with a Goa'uld staff weapon.
ZAT (target) with a Goa'uld Zat'nik'tel.
BAYONET (target) with a Wraith stunner rifle.
Each weapon has an unlimited number of discharges, but you can only use one weapon a night.
You appear to win with the Lost Boys. You win when everyone else is killed.
Italics used for emphasis in the above. Arix's innocence appears to be a unique trait.
I do not find your excessively incendiary tone to be helpful, or convincing in your case. The sudden change of tone, particularly to a pattern more severe than that of Shaddus, only makes you look more suspicious in my eyes.
I've only really given my name, which as previously stated a few days back, is Rodney McKay. As for the rest, you've pretty much seen it. I like to analyze things and stay away from citrus fruit. I'm a scientist, Jim, not a doctor. Or a milkman.
Aside from that, what you see is what you get: my exceptionally handsome self.
Gleip2010-03-31 01:51:56
So in your world "similar" means "the same", is that so? Such a miserable attempt at twisting my words.
Unknown2010-03-31 01:59:30
QUOTE (Gleip @ Mar 30 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So in your world "similar" means "the same", is that so? Such a miserable attempt at twisting my words.
It's a separate faction from Humans. I've yet to see a game where there are two towns, and I'm not super familiar with flavour. Just what I've read on a few wiki pages while bored. That indicates, at the least, a survivor, if not something outright antagonistic to town. No?
Gleip2010-03-31 02:14:03
Except "Lost boys" doesn't appear antagonistic to town at all. The whole name implies survivor to a heavy degree, which is why it falls flat, and it is still similar BECAUSE it twists the result of investigation. I'm twisted to appear Wraith, while I'm an Athosian. Xavius was twisted from SKer to survivor. Arix was twisted from scum to town.
And yes, I'm applying an "incendiary" tone, because it's so ridiculously stupid that people don't recall that only a game ago, you guys were lynching your investigator for putting too much emphasis on investigations. Stop to think for once.
And yes, I'm applying an "incendiary" tone, because it's so ridiculously stupid that people don't recall that only a game ago, you guys were lynching your investigator for putting too much emphasis on investigations. Stop to think for once.
Shaddus2010-03-31 02:22:06
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ Mar 30 2010, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a separate faction from Humans. I've yet to see a game where there are two towns
Just for reference, the Mario RPG mafia game we had a while back had around five seperate factions, all of which could be considered town.
Unknown2010-03-31 02:22:55
Survivor isn't a good claim to be pinned to making. Appearing to be town is never of negative consequence unless you have been doing an awful lot to look scummy, and even then, the fault lies elsewhere. I don't see them as particularly similar at all, but perhaps this isn't something we'll see eye to eye on.
For that matter, I'm not sure how relevant it even is for discussion!
For those familiar with the series, assuming any are left, I am curious about whether or not posing as wraiths is something that actually happens canonically. For Queen, or... whatever other flavours wraiths come in. Is this something that makes sense for the setting, or is it something that the mod would have to deviously set upon us with artistic license in the hopes of leading us astray? I think it's a worthy question to ponder.
For that matter, I'm not sure how relevant it even is for discussion!
For those familiar with the series, assuming any are left, I am curious about whether or not posing as wraiths is something that actually happens canonically. For Queen, or... whatever other flavours wraiths come in. Is this something that makes sense for the setting, or is it something that the mod would have to deviously set upon us with artistic license in the hopes of leading us astray? I think it's a worthy question to ponder.
Unknown2010-03-31 02:27:11
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 30 2010, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just for reference, the Mario RPG mafia game we had a while back had around five seperate factions, all of which could be considered town.
I did not see that one. But useful to keep in mind.
Riluna2010-03-31 03:43:17
@Gleip - why the sudden hostile, even insulting tone, as soon as you get a little suspicion? How do you think this helps you, in any way?
Also, I'm curious. What makes the roleblocker inherently town? This is a mafia ability as well, is it not? I'm open to hearing other people's thoughts as to why there wasn't a mafia kill last night.
Also, outguessing the mod doesn't seem like it's going to get us very far, in my opinion.
Unvote
Also, I'm curious. What makes the roleblocker inherently town? This is a mafia ability as well, is it not? I'm open to hearing other people's thoughts as to why there wasn't a mafia kill last night.
Also, outguessing the mod doesn't seem like it's going to get us very far, in my opinion.
Unvote
Unknown2010-03-31 09:29:25
It's possible that I protected the right person last night. I protected Romertein.
Tekora2010-03-31 11:01:55
QUOTE (Solanis @ Mar 30 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What does it mean that he's claimed/demonstrated french vanilla townie....?
It means he has a power that doesn't really do anything, like Ileein.
Anyway, Solanis. If you're the doctor, can you give us a full list of people you protected and on which nights?
Also, if Solanis is claiming Doctor, then we might not have a roleblocker and that means going back to Silferras and my inactivity theory.
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Gleip - Claimed Miller
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Silferras - Suspected Roleblocker
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
My chart of information doesn't lie. Gleip, Solanis and Silferras are the x-factors here, and until you give us something more concrete to work with, you're all going to remain under suspicion.
Tekora2010-03-31 11:24:17
Ok, here's a plan for endgame.
Because Silferras may be a blocker, it's useless to try to nightkill her, as already demonstrated. Thus, we should lynch her today, then have Riluna kill Gleip. Depending on who/if the Mafia kills, that will leave any of these situations.
Day 6 - Scenario 1 - Mafia kills Riluna
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 2 - Mafia kills me
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 3 - Mafia kills Vendetta
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 4 - Mafia kills Romertien
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 5 - Mafia kills Solanis
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 6 - Mafia kills no one
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
We should win at this point, but if not, then we can assume that Solanis, as the only player who has not demonstrated his innocence at this point, is probably lying. In all scenarios, this is solved by lynching Solanis.
So, let's lynch Silferras and nightkill Gleip. With Gleip dead, we'll then be able to tell if Romertien is telling the truth about him being a Wraith, and if it turns out that he's lying, then we know who to lynch and nightkill tomorrow for the win.
Unvote: Gleip
Vote: Silferras
Because Silferras may be a blocker, it's useless to try to nightkill her, as already demonstrated. Thus, we should lynch her today, then have Riluna kill Gleip. Depending on who/if the Mafia kills, that will leave any of these situations.
Day 6 - Scenario 1 - Mafia kills Riluna
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 2 - Mafia kills me
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 3 - Mafia kills Vendetta
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 4 - Mafia kills Romertien
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 5 - Mafia kills Solanis
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
Day 6 - Scenario 6 - Mafia kills no one
Riluna (formerly played by Eldanien) - Confirmed Townie Vig
Romertien - Claimed Investigator Townie
Solanis - Claimed Doctor
Tekora - Claimed/Demonstrated One-shot Reviver Townie
Vendetta Morendo - Claimed/Demonstrated French Vanilla Townie
----------
We should win at this point, but if not, then we can assume that Solanis, as the only player who has not demonstrated his innocence at this point, is probably lying. In all scenarios, this is solved by lynching Solanis.
So, let's lynch Silferras and nightkill Gleip. With Gleip dead, we'll then be able to tell if Romertien is telling the truth about him being a Wraith, and if it turns out that he's lying, then we know who to lynch and nightkill tomorrow for the win.
Unvote: Gleip
Vote: Silferras
Tekora2010-03-31 11:34:41
Also, adding onto my Silferras/Inactive Mafia theory, Silferras hasn't been on the forums since the 26'th. Night took place on the 28'th-30'th. There was once again no Mafia kill. This is NOT a coincidence, people.
Unknown2010-03-31 13:05:18
Protected Furien, Tekora, Gleip, Romertien in that order.
I'm still reasonably leery of marking off Vendetta has confirmed townie, just because he has some weird seemingly useless power.
I'm still reasonably leery of marking off Vendetta has confirmed townie, just because he has some weird seemingly useless power.
Unknown2010-03-31 13:39:25
It must be a coincidence because if I hadn't been around during night, I would have died. Hole in your logic there.
Anyway, yes, I'm your (still busy with school) roleblocker. I was hoping to keep my role under wraps until I got some actually useful and implicating information, but I was forced to protect myself last night instead of doing something useful, so Solanis must have protected the right person. I blocked Shaddus, Gleip, Rika and Riluna, in that order.
Anyway, yes, I'm your (still busy with school) roleblocker. I was hoping to keep my role under wraps until I got some actually useful and implicating information, but I was forced to protect myself last night instead of doing something useful, so Solanis must have protected the right person. I blocked Shaddus, Gleip, Rika and Riluna, in that order.
Unknown2010-03-31 15:28:42
So, assuming I haven't made any mistakes with what's been reported, this is what's happened according to what we've all shared now:
With investigations on Tekora, Furien, and me on unspecified nights.
I also believe I've used the assessment on every day, up until this one. If you all wish, I can refrain from doing so for the sake of allowing you all to see if it makes any difference, or assess on my next post and continue the trend as before.
QUOTE
Day 1
- Reiha Lynched
Night 1
- Silferras roleblocks Shaddus
- Solanis protects Furien
- Eld/Riluna vig kills Arix
- Kiradawea killed by scum
Day 2
- Eldanien Lynched
Night 2
- Silferras roleblocks Gleip
- Solanis protects Tekora
- Tekora resurrects Eldanien
- Furien and Xavius both killed by scum(?)
Day 3
- Shaddus Lynched
Night 3
- Silferras roleblocks Rika
- Solanis protects Gleip
- Rika killed by scum
Day 4
- Ileein Lynched
Night 4
- Romertien investigated Gleip
- Silferras roleblocks Eld/Riluna
- Solanis protects Romertien
- no scum or vig kills
Day 5
???
- Reiha Lynched
Night 1
- Silferras roleblocks Shaddus
- Solanis protects Furien
- Eld/Riluna vig kills Arix
- Kiradawea killed by scum
Day 2
- Eldanien Lynched
Night 2
- Silferras roleblocks Gleip
- Solanis protects Tekora
- Tekora resurrects Eldanien
- Furien and Xavius both killed by scum(?)
Day 3
- Shaddus Lynched
Night 3
- Silferras roleblocks Rika
- Solanis protects Gleip
- Rika killed by scum
Day 4
- Ileein Lynched
Night 4
- Romertien investigated Gleip
- Silferras roleblocks Eld/Riluna
- Solanis protects Romertien
- no scum or vig kills
Day 5
???
With investigations on Tekora, Furien, and me on unspecified nights.
I also believe I've used the assessment on every day, up until this one. If you all wish, I can refrain from doing so for the sake of allowing you all to see if it makes any difference, or assess on my next post and continue the trend as before.
Unknown2010-03-31 15:39:41
As an additional note, this places some critical scrutiny on Night 2.
If Eldanien was resurrected, but did not have a chance to call either of those targets, then there was, in fact, two mafia kills. Shaddus could have scored one - what about the other? I know it wasn't me with certainty, though naturally, none of you do. Should I die today or tomorrow, I'm relatively certain this will confirm that someone is lying somewhere among us.
Unless, of course, Riluna has any ability to confirm for us at all on who might have killed who on Night 2.
If Eldanien was resurrected, but did not have a chance to call either of those targets, then there was, in fact, two mafia kills. Shaddus could have scored one - what about the other? I know it wasn't me with certainty, though naturally, none of you do. Should I die today or tomorrow, I'm relatively certain this will confirm that someone is lying somewhere among us.
Unless, of course, Riluna has any ability to confirm for us at all on who might have killed who on Night 2.