Except if they're actually going to be released within two weeks then they'd already be designed

As you may have now guessed, we are releasing the lost cities of
Hallifax and Gaudiguch as player cities. I thought it is best I address
that here now before people rush to make any hasty decisions. Though
we've been planning this for quite some time, I must admit I was
struggling on the wisdom of releasing the new orgs without a larger
playerbase but eventually I decided to go ahead and do it but I thought
it should be a slow growth process. Therefore, as you may have already
seen, there is only one guild listed in each city. And, yes, that's all
that will be opening.

The plan is for the cities to raise 200k power. When they have that
much, and if they are willing, they must pay 100k power to release the
next guild. The choice will be between a guardian and warrior guild.
Those will be the next guilds we work to release (it may not happen
instaneously). For the next guild, the same procedure follows. After the
guardian and warrior guild are released we may or may not begin work on
a bard and monk guild. We will assess at the time whether or not we have
the playerbase to support it.

To emphasize, we expect this to be a SLOW process. The next two guilds
may be spread out over 2010. Certainly, we won't allow the next guild to
open for at least a couple of months. Also note, with the exception of
mercenaries (i.e., warriors with hunting), if you join the city and do
not want to be a mage, you will be stuck in a class who can't use any
skill that requires nexus powers. So please look before you leap!

While you can see the guilds listed already, we will not be allowing
anyone to join the guilds until probably Tuesday. (It may be earlier but
my birthday is tomorrow.) Entering the city may be allowed sooner, but
that has not been decided.

Also, the survivors of the Taint Wars (Scuchidira and Cririk) have been
granted sole and absolute power to act as city leaders and guildmasters
(i.e., they cannot be contested). Who knows how long they'll remain in
power? One can never tell with these temporal anomalies perhaps they'll
live forever!

I'd rather not have guardians release extended because they need to redesign the rituals spec

I think at this point it's obvious that Warriors are designed around their primary, and whatever they share with Guardians is maybe some utility in the skill. If you're arguing that Warrior tertiaries are horrible for them, but they're getting along ok, then wouldn't a tertiary designed to really synergize with them put Halli/Gaudi warriors over the top?

Has there been a case in the history of Lusternia where Moon/Night/Necromancy/Sacraments has been useless to the respective guardian/wiccan?

Not in lusternian history, you know why?
They were designed to work together.

Have you looked at Mages in MKO?
They were released with Arcana and were going to get Enchantment except Enchantment was not done at the start, so for a while they just waited until it was announced that it didn't fit with something or other and now they are going to split the primary and put more skills in. If the skills are not designed as you seem to expect then you are asking for this to happen here

Not in lusternian history, you know why?
They were designed to work together.

Have you looked at Mages in MKO?
They were released with Arcana and were going to get Enchantment except Enchantment was not done at the start, so for a while they just waited until it was announced that it didn't fit with something or other and now they are going to split the primary and put more skills in. If the skills are not designed as you seem to expect then you are asking for this to happen here

I was a mage in MKO.


I think the admins here know full well that the ritual spec will be the guardians main kill, the cosmic spec is easy enough to make fit with the kill condition, but there are many cases where the ritual spec has been of no help to the warriors. History here has shown that it usually goes the other way, then they just have to add some things to make the skill at least somewhat useful for warriors.

This works on the assumption that these Guardians will be like other guardians, which people have started to doubt. It could be that their kill actually comes from their cosmic spec, the problem is that no one can say for certain how they will look until they are designed completely. Which if the Illuminati are going to have some form of body warping as their cosmic spec might put their kill there rather than in rituals.

This works on the assumption that these Guardians will be like other guardians, which people have started to doubt. It could be that their kill actually comes from their cosmic spec, the problem is that no one can say for certain how they will look until they are designed completely. Which if the Illuminati are going to have some form of body warping as their cosmic spec might put their kill there rather than in rituals.

That is not even remotely similar. In fact what you are saying supports warriors being released first. Since warriors already have all the other skills set in stone (they share them with all other warrior guilds) they would be the hardest to balance out while balancing out the guardians you can play with the cosmic skill set.

Both guardian guilds have two instas. One in the cosmic spec (always mana so far) and their other, unique condition (inquisition, crucify). They won't put the mana or whatever kill in the ritual spec because that would be beyond useless for warriors.

PS: Crow Swoop is a mana kill.

Crow is a spec Warriors can pick.

Don't be so sure of such assessments; could easily be anything. The Admin like their curveballs at times.

Absolve is actually a valid kill method for Celestines , and some people get their kills out of tarrot

And I highly doubt they will go away from the cosmic: pet + pacts that give hindering + mana insta + better bashing tool and rituals: setup insta kill + damage mitagation + timed + buffs.