Bring on the new guilds!

by Ayden

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Rika2010-02-17 06:26:23
QUOTE (Saran @ Feb 17 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard Lyreth wanted to join Halliguardians *halo*


Valid, people think I'm lyreth when they read my title


Hey, Shuyin once asked me when the Sents would get opened. True story.
Ayden2010-02-17 06:31:30
Then he can wait with the rest of you guys! nyah.gif
Elostian2010-02-17 09:14:24
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 17 2010, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said already, even our bards lack an instakill.


Finale is the usual bard instantkill, yes.

You will also notice that opera works a bit different, as some have already noted. Most of the songs in the skillset have several either passive or active effects. In the skillist you will further see abilities like duetto, tertietto and quartetto, these will allow bards to team up with others and 'unlock' the passive or active abilities of songs as they are performed. There are some in haven who are not really sold on this idea, since they feel it will make the bards overpowered in group combat and underpowered in 1 vs 1. As such, we thought we'd get your ideas.

I'm afraid I can't give you the full ab files because they haven't been written yet, but I can perhaps clarify some of the skills after I have had my morning блин blin and водка.
Ayden2010-02-17 09:26:36
..... ohmy.gif
Rika2010-02-17 09:28:53
I'd rather just stick with the tried and true, to be honest. Aeromancy sucks enough for me not to want to take the risk.
Casilu2010-02-17 09:33:34
QUOTE (rika @ Feb 17 2010, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd rather just stick with the tried and true, to be honest. Aeromancy sucks enough for me not to want to take the risk.


Think of it like the buzzing of 10,000 ANGRY BEES.
Unknown2010-02-17 09:34:04
QUOTE (Elostian @ Feb 17 2010, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid I can't give you the full ab files because they haven't been written yet, but I can perhaps clarify some of the skills after I have had my morning блин blin and водка.


Your mention of Russian foodstuffs doesn't lend credibility to the obvious spoof you've concocted to con us all.

Feel the shame, sir.
Elostian2010-02-17 09:35:39
I am very disappointed that you would think that I would spoof anyone. After all, it isn't april!
Siam2010-02-17 09:37:20
Spoof or not, that's one tempting skillset. bard2.gif

Also, I like this smiley:
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Rodngar2010-02-17 10:20:51
I sense a sneak peek of Gaudimonks and Hallibards on April 1st. :3
Anisu2010-02-17 10:28:05
QUOTE (Rodngar @ Feb 17 2010, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I sense a sneak peek of Gaudimonks and Hallibards on April 1st. :3

no on april first they announce the destruction of celest and magnagora and that the celestines and nihilists move to the new cities.
Rodngar2010-02-17 12:17:13
groan
Xavius2010-02-17 15:33:46
QUOTE (Elostian @ Feb 17 2010, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the skillist you will further see abilities like duetto, tertietto and quartetto, these will allow bards to team up with others and 'unlock' the passive or active abilities of songs as they are performed. There are some in haven who are not really sold on this idea, since they feel it will make the bards overpowered in group combat and underpowered in 1 vs 1. As such, we thought we'd get your ideas.

Hey, just in case that actually is the working draft, kill it. The biggest problem with both the bard and monk specs is that, after giving people a handful of skills, the mechanics then step in and tell people all the ways they can't use them. Finding new and creative ways to tell players that they can't use their skills is bad form. It stifles player creativity and leads to balance situations that make both the user and the victim unhappy. The user feels weak because they can't use the good stuff when they need to. The victim feels weak because they can't do enough about the good stuff.
Eventru2010-02-17 17:13:24
QUOTE (Xavius @ Feb 17 2010, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, just in case that actually is the working draft, kill it. The biggest problem with both the bard and monk specs is that, after giving people a handful of skills, the mechanics then step in and tell people all the ways they can't use them. Finding new and creative ways to tell players that they can't use their skills is bad form. It stifles player creativity and leads to balance situations that make both the user and the victim unhappy. The user feels weak because they can't use the good stuff when they need to. The victim feels weak because they can't do enough about the good stuff.


A good point. We may need to halt production and redesign this skillset, Elo. Unfortunately, it sounds like we won't be able to get this guild out until mid-summer at the earliest. sad.gif
Elostian2010-02-17 18:55:46
By George, he's right... we should remove all Bards and Monks guilds.
Eventru2010-02-17 18:57:18
QUOTE (Elostian @ Feb 17 2010, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By George, he's right... we should remove all Bards and Monks guilds.


Really? But but. I like the Cantors. :\\
Elostian2010-02-17 18:57:56
No.
Eventru2010-02-17 18:58:52
No what? No not really, or no cantors? dry.gif
Unknown2010-02-17 18:59:56
QUOTE (Elostian @ Feb 17 2010, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By George, he's right... we should remove all Bards and Monks guilds.

Don't tease.
Elostian2010-02-17 19:00:06
Both.

I dislike your silly little cantors. You can keep them.


And your little dog too.