It's threads like this that all developers dread, because I'm sure that they thought the "animations", for lack of a better term, that they describe were very appropriate, until committee says, "NO! DAS RIGHT! LORE DUNT SAY DAT!!"

Obviously the developers didn't take into account the fact that Cririk stated in the very first post that emotions such as anger are deplorable. Funny how he was an Aeromancer... I guess he just never used Illwind. I think Swiftwind and Soothingclouds are fine as they seem very much Trillillialish.

What about Indignation? Wouldn't that be a higher emotion?

Righteous anger!

Exactly. Indignation is within many philosophical and religious sects considered to be the only "just" form of wrath.

The base emotions that are viewed in poor light by Hallifax are not necessarily unusable - the ill wind could be something that is an undesirable aspect of Air (I don't think Hallifax views Air as some 'perfect' embodiment of what they want to become - there's a lot of aspects to it that may be undesirable, particularly the raging tempests, furious storms, etc).

I'm really not familiar with Aeromancy (or -mancy in general), but if I had to take a guess, you can only call out certain aspects of Air by manifesting it in the air. IE, you can only manifest the ill, hateful winds with ill, hateful emotions (instilling them in the air, removing them from the caster), or soft, healing, joyful winds by instilling them in the winds.

Or you channel those aspects of Air into your demesne, and briefly are overcome by them. So you draw on the Plane of Air, draw out the hateful, malicious illwind, and, for however brief a time, it overcomes you as you imbibe it into the clouds/air about you.

Lots of ways you could certainly argue it, ICly!

Edit: In fact, as an afterthought, you could even write a dissertation on the topic! "Aeromancy and You: On Channeling the Elemental Vibrations of the Four Primary Elements for the Betterment of Demesnes, and How They Affect Behaviour".

I think someone just spent too much time working on Gaudi-Pyro and not enough on Halli-Aero.

Well, you'd be wrong. Different people did them (shoot, the people who worked mostly on Gaudiguch didn't have anything to do with Pyromancy - and the same for Hallifax and Aeromancy!).

There's a lot to Hallifax and its denizens that's under the surface (and, unfortunately, time constraints prevented such - maybe some day!). For instance, most of its artist mobs are, at least nominally, aeromancers, whereas the scientists in the Research Projects are more cosmic-leaning (though this is not always the case).

Can the people who design our guardian/warrior skills please be swapped?

That is, I expect to have passive aeon and a 5-power instakill that works on anyone with aeon for Halliguardians while the Illuminati cosmic skill has mainly regeneration skills with a 10-power instakill that requires the target to have below 10% in h/m/e.

Don't forget masking where you are, even to scry and everything else, no matter what.

"...Ergo, logically speaking, I'm not here. So shoo."

Something similar. Pyromancy's mirage basically means you don't know where they died on deathsight, scrying is useless, so on and far

Stop making me want to join the Halliguardians when they come out. I don't have the credits to switch and the poor Aeros will need some people when the time comes.

I realized what I said may have been slightly confused and have edited it appropriately - I was just referring to the denizens, like Shalmae and Senior Researcher Eepex and such. Aeromancers certainly can, have and always will have quite a number of scientists among them! Likewise, you probably will find a fair number of cosmic-inclined artists. Who knows? Time will tell, I suppose...

No, no. Halliguardians have Inquisition with no Heretic/Infidel requirement. They also have passive Trueheal.

Gaudiguardians are limited to healing and Healer tarots, and have passive self-peace.

So... pro-halliguardians first

@shaddus: You forgot the original choke minus shadow requirement with a rituals spec defense that makes you immune to it.

I'm sorry to hear that my guildmates aren't living up to the standard of quality those of the Basin have come to expect from Geomancers. Here in Magnagora, we take pride in our affinity with the Taint and... something something.

That actually kind of disappoints me to hear, considering Geomancers are supposed to be flippin' wacko from being the closest to the Taint of anyone else in the Basin. I know Ongaku sure as heck isn't all there. Senile and goofy at the least, and I totally forgot until reading my signature that he's got a Merian living in his his brain. o.O Or at least, he thinks he does. >.>

Oops, sorry for the hijack. Carry on!

Oh no, sorry, you took it the wrong way. They're plenty crazy. Far crazier than most people will ever hope to be. I'm just not most people.

It's kinda the opposite actually... you can sometimes work out parts of the lore from the skill messages you have but when the lore that admin-controlled npcs gives you contradicts this then things become confusing.


From a character perspective they saw Cririk dancing around laughing then scolding them later for doing so.

If it's about evoking emotion it could be done with something like...

You reach out to your melded land and close your eyes as you draw up memories of joyfilled moments, merging them with the clouds around you.

Third person could be something about smiling while their eyes are closed or the like, Non-demesne cast could involve the clouds swirling around the caster or something.


EDIT: Actually thinking about similar implementations, this would also lead to an appearance of a high level of mastery over their abillities and emotions which would be more inline with hallifax than jumping around like some... snugglewilder (the secret secret masters of serenwilde will bring snuggling back one day)

I'm more concerned about the actual impact of the abilities than their casting messages. The latter can be made to fit with a bit of clever roleplay - the former haunts us each and every day.