QUOTE (Xenthos @ Mar 21 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not making people step down. 
Well if the incentive is good enough everyone will be scrambling to step down. As an example, I'd wager that that Sidd might happily step down for a 16+/16+/16+ weapon rune that nobody else in the game can own. I don't think it'd make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things but Sidd will be very happy and he can always compete to be VA later. You can keep VA because there is no one more deserving. Estarra is happy because balance in some sense has been restored, and nothing of this nature will ever happen again. When the essence shop comes out bored demigods and former VAs who have been refunded their essence, given some honours line, and unique artifact in hand can go to town and all will be right in the world..... Well at least until the playerbase grows large enough that sustaining 5+ VA becomes realistic, DUN DUN DUN!!!
QUOTE (Romero @ Mar 21 2010, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is how to soften the blow, Estarra:
Give them back their essence and then open an essence shop filled with RP goodies. Give them a special honors. Make ascendant stripping have two methods. Dishonorable and honorable. Two different honors for each. Now that is an achievement to try and hold both lol.
Give them back their essence and then open an essence shop filled with RP goodies. Give them a special honors. Make ascendant stripping have two methods. Dishonorable and honorable. Two different honors for each. Now that is an achievement to try and hold both lol.
Right. This is kind of irking me. They (Estarra and Roark) can do Cosmic and Warrior guilds for both cities, or they can stop and do a full demigod/endgame review (because that's what it would most likely entail - a complete review of demigods and ascendants). Either way, they'd be coding for quite a while. The storygoes the same with Sior and monthly envoy reports etc - and I'm still learning, and pretty rudimentary at that.
You all keep acting as if this 'essence shop' is going to be 'quick' or 'easy'. Every time the idea is bandied about (and even up here, as it has its supporters!), there's a lack of a lot of things that would make it viable. I'm really not going to get into it - it isn't viable right now. We don't have the resources. We don't have -a lot- of things for a review of it that will require what will be weeks of debating and discussing exactly what this will do or how this is going to affect that, and -then- it's going to take someone a few hundred hours of coding to really get it in, in anything that would remotely resemble a complete system. A system that you all would be really happy with, enjoy, and go 'Oh man Estarra, have you seen my socks?!'
An end game review is on the long list of things we'd really love to do, and I've heard Est say it many times on the forums. But we do have our hands full. Everyone is busting butt on a bunch of different projects at every end of the spectrum. We hear you. This is what you really want to see. And the next time we open a focus poll, I encourage you, if this is what you want to see (in lieu of a review of the Great House System, or a review of Nexus World Conflict, or a review of whatever else is going to be on this list), to vote for it.
No one is ignoring you, no one is pocket-vetoing the idea. It's just there's other things that are deemed as more important right now, so they're dealing with them right now.
Some day, my little ducklings.
QUOTE (Eventru @ Mar 21 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right. This is kind of irking me. They (Estarra and Roark) can do Cosmic and Warrior guilds for both cities, or they can stop and do a full demigod/endgame review (because that's what it would most likely entail - a complete review of demigods and ascendants). Either way, they'd be coding for quite a while. The storygoes the same with Sior and monthly envoy reports etc - and I'm still learning, and pretty rudimentary at that.
You all keep acting as if this 'essence shop' is going to be 'quick' or 'easy'. Every time the idea is bandied about (and even up here, as it has its supporters!), there's a lack of a lot of things that would make it viable. I'm really not going to get into it - it isn't viable right now. We don't have the resources. We don't have -a lot- of things for a review of it that will require what will be weeks of debating and discussing exactly what this will do or how this is going to affect that, and -then- it's going to take someone a few hundred hours of coding to really get it in, in anything that would remotely resemble a complete system. A system that you all would be really happy with, enjoy, and go 'Oh man Estarra, have you seen my socks?!'
An end game review is on the long list of things we'd really love to do, and I've heard Est say it many times on the forums. But we do have our hands full. Everyone is busting butt on a bunch of different projects at every end of the spectrum. We hear you. This is what you really want to see. And the next time we open a focus poll, I encourage you, if this is what you want to see (in lieu of a review of the Great House System, or a review of Nexus World Conflict, or a review of whatever else is going to be on this list), to vote for it.
No one is ignoring you, no one is pocket-vetoing the idea. It's just there's other things that are deemed as more important right now, so they're dealing with them right now.
Some day, my little ducklings.
You all keep acting as if this 'essence shop' is going to be 'quick' or 'easy'. Every time the idea is bandied about (and even up here, as it has its supporters!), there's a lack of a lot of things that would make it viable. I'm really not going to get into it - it isn't viable right now. We don't have the resources. We don't have -a lot- of things for a review of it that will require what will be weeks of debating and discussing exactly what this will do or how this is going to affect that, and -then- it's going to take someone a few hundred hours of coding to really get it in, in anything that would remotely resemble a complete system. A system that you all would be really happy with, enjoy, and go 'Oh man Estarra, have you seen my socks?!'
An end game review is on the long list of things we'd really love to do, and I've heard Est say it many times on the forums. But we do have our hands full. Everyone is busting butt on a bunch of different projects at every end of the spectrum. We hear you. This is what you really want to see. And the next time we open a focus poll, I encourage you, if this is what you want to see (in lieu of a review of the Great House System, or a review of Nexus World Conflict, or a review of whatever else is going to be on this list), to vote for it.
No one is ignoring you, no one is pocket-vetoing the idea. It's just there's other things that are deemed as more important right now, so they're dealing with them right now.
Some day, my little ducklings.
I understand that, that's wonderful, we'll love those guilds or whatever it is and it will be wonderful. But you're asking us for ideas while at the same time saying you don't have the time to use any of them, which amounts to saying "oh well, guess we're stuck with the original plan and not budging". Soft capping vernals is a bandaid solution that should be addressed in a comprehensive review and not a one-off "fix" in the middle of other stuff.
An essence shop does not address the problem. It's a shiny trinket to distract people from pain from what some people view as a quad-limb amputation.
There's a distinct difference between 'Adjusting the figures in x manner and adjusting the cost at y rate' and 'code an entirely lollipop so we don't see the needle', in my opinion.
It really feels like 'Well you're not budging, so I'm going to whine and hope you'll give me something else I want'.
There's a distinct difference between 'Adjusting the figures in x manner and adjusting the cost at y rate' and 'code an entirely lollipop so we don't see the needle', in my opinion.
It really feels like 'Well you're not budging, so I'm going to whine and hope you'll give me something else I want'.QUOTE (Eventru @ Mar 21 2010, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An essence shop does not address the problem. It's a shiny trinket to distract people from pain from what some people view as a quad-limb amputation.
Man, only a quad-limb amputation?
You've got it easy. No wings to lop off as well. You will not miss the sky.
