Trade and Commodities

by Kelly

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Xenthos2010-05-15 03:00:22
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Should've clarified. By "your," I mean the collective average of org prices. Except silk, where I really had to pick on Celest. >_>

Still, you know that your prices are worse than the UV's too, right?

They're on the low end of the village range, actually. If the stuff stockpiles in the villages (which it tends to more in the UV since they're more out of the way and thus people don't tend to buy there as much), they will get cheaper. On the whole, however, metal prices are way above what we're selling them at.
Xavius2010-05-15 03:02:12
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ May 14 2010, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gems are double the price in Southgard? Gems are never less than 108gp per. In order to get them at that rate, you need to farm rockeaters. The price inflates back up easily once they are bought out otherwise, and takes a while to stabilize. Even at that... glom sold gems at 150gp for the longest time, and now sell at 140gp per. Celest is at 190gp per. Neither of these are really double. Who is "your" referring to, once again?

Silk is four times? Silk is 110gp per in Celest. Villages never sell for less than 50gp per. Where in god's name are you getting your silk? Because damn... I want in on that censor.gif too.

These paragraphs are wrong, for what it's worth. You can get gems and silk to go lower than that, even in the old villages.
Unknown2010-05-15 03:05:35
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These paragraphs are wrong, for what it's worth. You can get gems and silk to go lower than that, even in the old villages.


How?
Shaddus2010-05-15 03:08:02
Let's keep the venom to a dull roar, please?
Unknown2010-05-15 03:10:42
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ May 14 2010, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's keep the venom to a dull roar, please?


Well, apparently we've all been doing it wrong for years. I want the genie out of the bottle!
Xenthos2010-05-15 03:12:20
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ May 14 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's keep the venom to a dull roar, please?

Given that I've seen these comms get to a cap (for me, usually it's wood capping at 50), and then never ever ever going below that point no matter how extra lumber you sell...

I'm really curious how he managed to get stuff to drop below its minimum village price, too.
Talan2010-05-15 03:13:00
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still, you know that your prices are worse than the UV's too, right?

You know that Ixthiaxa and Ptoma are broken, right? The prices there do not readjust as they do in the other markets, based on the supply to hand. The production there is also rubbish. I mean you're absolutely right - every 11 hours you can get 15 iron out of Ptoma or Ixthiaxa (depending on who has the miners that minute) - for 61 gold. If you're lucky, you could probably get 7 steel for 75 gp there, too. At best, these values can be combined with the real producers of these commodities (Rockholm, Southgard, Angkrag) to slightly lower the average, but this is a best-case scenario that only exists in a broken state.

QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These paragraphs are wrong, for what it's worth. You can get gems and silk to go lower than that, even in the old villages.

I've never seen gems for less than 108, nor silk for less than 50. I think your information is outdated.
Xavius2010-05-15 03:14:27
Wood's floor isn't 50 either. I bought it at 33 just sitting around in Delport the other day without farming anything. Talan says it's 28.

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. Bring comms, buy some when the price stops going down. Dumping lots of commodities doesn't give you the best price, but it's not exactly rocket science.
Xenthos2010-05-15 03:15:20
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wood's floor isn't 50 either. I bought it at 33 just sitting around in Delport the other day without farming anything. Talan says it's 28.

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. Bring comms, buy some when the price stops going down. Dumping lots of commodities doesn't give you the best price, but it's not exactly rocket science.

Might be misremembering the number (as it's been a while), so I'll go with that. I'm absolutely positive that there is a minimum cap that it will go, though, beyond which it absolutely refuses to drop.

And I would say that the people who work on comm quests to huge degrees (Ragniliff, Talan), to the point where they have little spreadsheets of minimums... probably know what they're talking about more than you or I!
Unknown2010-05-15 03:17:54
Here, perhaps, is a more pertinent question:

Where are you getting silk for less than 50gp per? And where are you getting gems for less than 108gp per?
Talan2010-05-15 03:18:53
QUOTE (Xenthos @ May 14 2010, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I would say that the people who work on comm quests to huge degrees (Ragniliff, Talan), to the point where they have little spreadsheets of minimums... probably know what they're talking about more than you or I!

Look I just really like Excel okay. Don't judge me! Kharaen does too! And Krellan! It's good software!
Xenthos2010-05-15 03:20:35
QUOTE (Talan @ May 14 2010, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look I just really like Excel okay. Don't judge me! Kharaen does too! And Krellan! It's good software!

I thought it was OOo.
Xavius2010-05-15 03:20:52
I forget on the silk, but I think it was Angkrag. Might have been Dairuchi. It was one of the spider farmer places. It wasn't like last week or anything, so don't get too excited. It was a definite bargain, and I felt like buying it out was my Lusternian duty.

The gems were Southgard. Today. About 5:00 Central.
Unknown2010-05-15 03:21:14
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 14 2010, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bring comms, buy some when the price stops going down. Dumping lots of commodities doesn't give you the best price, but it's not exactly rocket science.


Okay. Here's something that occurred to me:

Are you selling actual, finished comms, IE silk spinnerets to the village, and not just bringing in spider spinnerets from dead spiders? Are you bringing in and selling actual gem clusters, and not just rockeater corpses?
Xavius2010-05-15 03:23:17
QUOTE (Vendetta Morendo @ May 14 2010, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay. Here's something that occurred to me:

Are you selling actual, finished comms, IE silk spinnerets to the village, and not just bringing in spider spinnerets from dead spiders? Are you bringing in and selling actual gem clusters, and not just rockeater corpses?

They've all been from the unprocessed quest items, but that's something worth trying out!
Furien2010-05-15 03:23:29
Wood floor was 27 per in Estelbar, from memory.
Lendren2010-05-15 03:28:32
QUOTE (Furien @ May 14 2010, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even wood is somewhat trivial: I've got a couple thousand in my rift because we'd always load up Estelbar after mulchings and buy out all 250 at 27 gold each.

If only that kind of opportunity was made available to Serenwilde artisans these days. We're currently specifically forbidden to buy it at the villages after the mulchings. It has to be bought and then immediately turned over to the commune, so it can make a 260% profit on our backs, and it only makes a few hundred available per 3-4 weaves. I wish I were making this up. But if you want to unload that couple thousand, I'll take them off your hands. C'mere!
Xavius2010-05-15 03:34:33
QUOTE (Lendren @ May 14 2010, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If only that kind of opportunity was made available to Serenwilde artisans these days. We're currently specifically forbidden to buy it at the villages after the mulchings. It has to be bought and then immediately turned over to the commune, so it can make a 260% profit on our backs, and it only makes a few hundred available per 3-4 weaves. I wish I were making this up. But if you want to unload that couple thousand, I'll take them off your hands. C'mere!


...seriously? sad.gif

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Unknown2010-05-15 03:35:54
Just buy it anyway. Misread, woops.

Also, I was never aware of that rule.
Lendren2010-05-15 03:38:02
Druids are, and artisans are. Probably no one else needs 1000 wood to make a single item and so wouldn't care!