Wait, what am I arguing, then?








I thought I had been pretty clear - though, I'll say it again, now - that I'm not saying Time Warp should be made more effective, the effect - even if it is almost unnoticeable - should just be one that contributes to the other goals we are working towards.

Exactly how does temporaryinsanity contribute to our goals more than timewarp does to yours, out of curiosity?

You (and others) have already commented on the synergy between Temporary Insanity and your skills:

That does nothing besides tell me that temporary insanity does synergize. Rationalize why timewarp doesn't as much?

Also:

It's because insanity's effect, command cancellation, (marginal though it maybe) is the same kind of effect that many of your other skills do, especially badluck, snafu, and for hexes, jinx. This leads to a comparatively easier 'kill' method when because every little bit helps when it comes to combat.

Timewarp, on the other hand, simply increases bal/eq, neither of which warriors or researchers have any use for, since they're not meant to stack balanceloss like nihilists or old Ur'Guards. Their aim is to stick aeon to get their instakill, so changing timewarp to help them with aeon roughly puts the timewarp mechanic on the same level as insanity.

Exactly.

I just don't see how you view 2% as anything but absolutely infinitesimal. You are now citing more abilities in Paradigmatics to make the comparison, which I kind of think directs us to the point that your answer should lie in Aeonics, not in buffing timewarp itself. :/


EDIT: Though, in retrospect, citing other abilities for the sake of a discussion of synergy isn't that far-fetched..

Well, this is the kind of game where people will trans trade skills just to get one item and immediately forget it, can you really be surprised that if possible, people will do and use anything they can to get the Win ™?

Yeah, but I think there's a vast difference between that and arguing that because temporary insanity provides a 2% chance of command denial, it is the reason that Paradigmatics synergizes well.

Just for you Shuyin, I put solution 2 as 2 power for badluck 1 for greywhispers. I still believe maintaining the power consumption is important to allow for illuminate to be feasable given the power intensity of other skills. Especially hexes who have no other options for a kill so will be relying on constantly throwing power out.

Edit:: and again, I am open to other changes down the road if they are needed.

Every little bit counts in combat, gotta eke every advantage you can find and ditch as much dead weight as possible.

Thing is, I didn't get that impression at all, besides the sarcasm every so often, this is what this thread has boiled down to for me:

Halli says, "hey we want timewarp to be as helpful as insanity is"

Gaudi say "But that help isn't that great you know"

The thread should have ended right there. This is where the thread goes wrong:

Halli says, "I will put up numbers showing why I think timewarp <<<< insanity"

Gaudi says, "Omg sanity isn't what makes our synergy great, it's everything else!"

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Shuyin says, "*rants and raves about choke as a tangent*"

P.S. I am good with Gregori's alternate solution too. Gg.

By that logic, you are getting every little bit out of timewarp already. You don't need that kind of rationale. You need to explain precisely WHY timewarp, whose effect is as already comparably infinitesimal as temporaryinsanity's, needs to be changed.

Just wondering. What is this "constantly throwing power out" in Paradigmatics you are talking about?

I didn't say in Paradigmatics.

What skills are you talking about, then?

Madfly, the only power skill in Transmology that should be used in the middle of a fight?

I was pretty clear on my statement of which sect of Illuminati would be power intensive to try and build/maintain insanity in.

Dwhammy = 2p
Gwis = 3p
Illuminate = 10p
Jinx = 2p
Madfly = 5p

So the problem isn't paradigmatics, but something that synergises with paradigmatics? So why do you want to change paradigmatics?

I swear we've been discussing somewhere in this thread...

Whammy = 1
Palm = 5